I agree, if you're trying to get something to be productive you should go with whatever gives you a good environment out of the box. But it sounds to me like 15

I agree, if you're trying to get something to be productive you should go with whatever gives you a good environment out of the box. But it sounds to me like 15 years ago (or whenever that was) you didn't really care about productivity but rather you just wanted to tinker with stuff for the sake of tinkering with stuff. And I think that's also valuable - there's a lot to be learned about how things work.