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I agree with this. I'd been struggling with using Xmonad et. al. on the desktop for years, figuring that there was something wrong with how I was doing it, hac

I agree with this. I'd been struggling with using Xmonad et. al. on the desktop for years, figuring that there was something wrong with how I was doing it, hacking on the config to get it just right. Then the pandemic happened, and I had to work from home. So I went to ICEWM, have my terminal with Tmux in the center screen and my web browsers on my left and right monitors and that's good enough for me to be productive and get my job done. So yeah, the perfect setup is not the one that's the coolest, it's the one that lets you get things done efficiently. Unfortunately for me, tiling window managers don't seem to do that.

joombaga 6y ago
> So yeah, the perfect setup is not the one that's the coolest, it's the one that lets you get things done efficiently. My ADD makes these the same. Having a cool desktop setup is the only way I can stay interested enough to get any work done.
onli 6y ago
To be fair, IceWM is pretty cool. No, really. It's the center of my custom linux desktop. You can run a similar setup like described in the article with it, it replaces dwm just fine. Its preferences and winoptions are powerful enough.
- necrotic_comp 6y ago
  oh! That's good to know. I just plopped it in there because I needed to get work done, and the start menu/desktop metaphor was enough to get me moving. I haven't even changed the defaults.
  - onli 6y ago
    I think my very first FOSS project was a config program for icewm, written in bash and with xdialog. https://sourceforge.net/projects/ice-prefer/ https://sourceforge.net/projects/ice-prefer/. Horrible code of course (edit: Looking at it - not as horrible as I expected). But they might even still work, though I didn't use them in ages. ice-prefer for the settings, ice-win for the winoptions. Turns out that once my desktop was configured I didn't have much need for them. That was of course way before the current icewm fork that has a preferences menu in the start menu. The winoptions I still recommend looking into, especially pinning apps to one workspace is very useful. That's not too far into the "configure everything" category. The concept of ice-win (clicking on a window, then having all options visible and configurable) would still be useful for that.

joombaga 6y ago

> So yeah, the perfect setup is not the one that's the coolest, it's the one that lets you get things done efficiently. My ADD makes these the same. Having a cool desktop setup is the only way I can stay interested enough to get any work done.

onli 6y ago

To be fair, IceWM is pretty cool. No, really. It's the center of my custom linux desktop. You can run a similar setup like described in the article with it, it replaces dwm just fine. Its preferences and winoptions are powerful enough.

necrotic_comp 6y ago
oh! That's good to know. I just plopped it in there because I needed to get work done, and the start menu/desktop metaphor was enough to get me moving. I haven't even changed the defaults.
- onli 6y ago
  I think my very first FOSS project was a config program for icewm, written in bash and with xdialog. https://sourceforge.net/projects/ice-prefer/ https://sourceforge.net/projects/ice-prefer/. Horrible code of course (edit: Looking at it - not as horrible as I expected). But they might even still work, though I didn't use them in ages. ice-prefer for the settings, ice-win for the winoptions. Turns out that once my desktop was configured I didn't have much need for them. That was of course way before the current icewm fork that has a preferences menu in the start menu. The winoptions I still recommend looking into, especially pinning apps to one workspace is very useful. That's not too far into the "configure everything" category. The concept of ice-win (clicking on a window, then having all options visible and configurable) would still be useful for that.