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This might explain why some preinstalled HP laptop software (with open ports?) causes a BSOD when users visit ebay https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebook-Operat

This might explain why some preinstalled HP laptop software (with open ports?) causes a BSOD when users visit ebay https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebook-Operating-System-and-Recovery/Blu-screen-error-after-login-to-ebay-costumer-page/td-p/6692602 https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebook-Operating-System-and-...

canofbars 6y ago
Preinstalled vendor software is just an endless stream of exploits
ww520 6y ago
A family member with a Dell has similar BSOD problem when visiting some of these websites. Do we know what software preinstalled on Dell causing the problem?
- woodrowbarlow 6y ago
  the BSOD minidump should tell you which driver crashed. GUIs exist for analyzing minidumps, it might even be feasible to talk someone through the process over the phone.
  - aspenmayer 6y ago
    One example of a GUI analysis tool for these kinds of memory dumps is WhoCrashed; another is BlueScreenView. https://www.resplendence.com/whocrashed https://www.resplendence.com/whocrashed http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/blue_screen_view.html http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/blue_screen_view.html
    - ww520 6y ago
      Good to know. Thanks.
ezoe 6y ago
A preinstalled local server, presumably running in kernel space for it cause BSOD, crash when connected from localhost and attempted TLS handshake? The preinstalled crapware never changes.
- sq_ 6y ago
  I feel like the only good option at this point when purchasing a prebuilt desktop or a laptop is to nuke the drive and do a clean install of Windows. Seems like the only way to ensure that you've killed the crapware and any partitions meant to preserve/reinstall it.
  - vetrom 6y ago
    Sometimes that isn't even enough. Windows for example ships with a feature called the "Windows Platform Binary Table" that will load and run DLLs embedded in a machine's ACPI tables.
    - sq_ 6y ago
      Wow. Didn't know that existed. Hard to see what legitimate, user-serving purpose that would serve. Or at least how the good of it's inclusion would outweigh possible harms.
    - mycall 6y ago
      Is there software that will enumerate ACPI for DLLs?
      - mkup 6y ago
        You can look for ACPI table(s) called "WPBT" using RWEverything (if you are a Windows user): http://rweverything.com/downloads/RwPortableX64V1.7.zip http://rweverything.com/downloads/RwPortableX64V1.7.zip or look into the following filesystem path in Linux: /sys/firmware/acpi/tables
  - aabbcc1241 6y ago
    If you want to stay clean, nuke the drive and install linux instead
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canofbars 6y ago

Preinstalled vendor software is just an endless stream of exploits

ww520 6y ago

A family member with a Dell has similar BSOD problem when visiting some of these websites. Do we know what software preinstalled on Dell causing the problem?

woodrowbarlow 6y ago
the BSOD minidump should tell you which driver crashed. GUIs exist for analyzing minidumps, it might even be feasible to talk someone through the process over the phone.
- aspenmayer 6y ago
  One example of a GUI analysis tool for these kinds of memory dumps is WhoCrashed; another is BlueScreenView. https://www.resplendence.com/whocrashed https://www.resplendence.com/whocrashed http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/blue_screen_view.html http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/blue_screen_view.html
  - ww520 6y ago
    Good to know. Thanks.

ezoe 6y ago

A preinstalled local server, presumably running in kernel space for it cause BSOD, crash when connected from localhost and attempted TLS handshake? The preinstalled crapware never changes.

sq_ 6y ago
I feel like the only good option at this point when purchasing a prebuilt desktop or a laptop is to nuke the drive and do a clean install of Windows. Seems like the only way to ensure that you've killed the crapware and any partitions meant to preserve/reinstall it.
- vetrom 6y ago
  Sometimes that isn't even enough. Windows for example ships with a feature called the "Windows Platform Binary Table" that will load and run DLLs embedded in a machine's ACPI tables.
  - sq_ 6y ago
    Wow. Didn't know that existed. Hard to see what legitimate, user-serving purpose that would serve. Or at least how the good of it's inclusion would outweigh possible harms.
  - mycall 6y ago
    Is there software that will enumerate ACPI for DLLs?
    - mkup 6y ago
      You can look for ACPI table(s) called "WPBT" using RWEverything (if you are a Windows user): http://rweverything.com/downloads/RwPortableX64V1.7.zip http://rweverything.com/downloads/RwPortableX64V1.7.zip or look into the following filesystem path in Linux: /sys/firmware/acpi/tables
- aabbcc1241 6y ago
  If you want to stay clean, nuke the drive and install linux instead

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