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More like lean toward a future where Bing (giving MSFT a monopoly on search, OS, Office Suites, browsers and whatnot), or worse, giving Chinese companies the le

More like lean toward a future where Bing (giving MSFT a monopoly on search, OS, Office Suites, browsers and whatnot), or worse, giving Chinese companies the lead in the rest of the world, and maybe even the US (if the US doesn't regulate them out). I don't see how a lot of Google products survive without the ad revenue. 1. Android -> Difficult to compete against a well financed Chinese competitor here for whatever new subpart of Google takes over android. 2. Chrome -> Again, either MSFT or a chinese fork. 3. Gmail -> Outlook, or maybe some chinese/russian mail service 4. Google Cloud -> This might be gone fully. I don't see them having any advantages if they can't piggyback on the world class google Infra. Even if the US regulates out Huwaei and Alibaba, almost all of Asia and Africa will surely be dominated by big Chinese tech, rather than small US tech if the US big tech get broken up. Not to mention they might dominate Europe too.

echelon 6y ago
> Africa will surely be dominated by big Chinese tech What are we waiting on?
DethNinja 6y ago
I completely disagree with you, in reality more competition will open up and smaller US/EU firms will take place of larger firms. This will result in decreasing inequality and help the general society as well. There is a good reason why anti-trust laws exist people. Billionaires are already a policy failure, we don’t need trillionaires in future as well.
- enitihas 6y ago
  > smaller US/EU firms will take place of larger firms. Why do you think smaller EU/US firms are more likely to take their place than Big Chinese firms. The Big Chinese firms will have economies of scale and more capital. > This will result in decreasing inequality and help the general society as well. I don't know how is that going to decrease inequality. Even if big tech is replaced by 5 small tech, there is no way on earth it will decrease inequality. Do you have any basis for such an extraordinary claim? > There is a good reason why anti-trust laws exist people. Billionaires are already a policy failure, we don’t need trillionaires in future as well. Sure. In the totally globalised world, you can decide you don't want big companies. This will just ensure a Chinese company dominates the market.
  - DethNinja 6y ago
    I’ve been using software products past 25 years, and been developing them for quite a while, in my opinion scale of a company has a minor relevancy to software quality after a certain size. I never worked at google but I’m willing to bet giant firms like Google have bunch of problems with their organization size which limits their code quality, product delivery times, and their agileness. A smaller, more agile company can definitely produce better products than Google (case in point: protonmail). It will decrease income inequality because profits will go to different shareholders / employees.
    - enitihas 6y ago
      > , in my opinion scale of a company has a minor relevancy to software quality after a certain size. Possible, but I didn't talk about software quality, I talked about number of users. > (case in point: protonmail). I think your case undermines your argument. Protonmail is not a very successful product. It is behind even many paid mail services. If that is your idea of success then sure, many small companies will become like protonmail, while tencent mail might become the new gmail.
bogwog 6y ago
Yes, breaking up a tech giant like Google will potentially have short-term negative (or maybe even positive) implications for their products. But doing this will open the door for more competition, and in the long run will lead to new innovations and technologies, and a stronger economy. Chinese tech giants might take market share from Google, but other American companies will pop up with new and better technology that will ultimately come out on top, like it always does. The Chinese tech giants of today are giants largely because of government funding and government-sponsored corporate espionage/stolen tech, not because they're leading the world in producing new technologies. As for Microsoft? If a behemoth like Google gets broken up for anti-competitive practices, regulators will likely not want to stop there. More competition is always a good thing, even if it sounds scary.
nitwit005 6y ago
Remember that AT&T was split up successfully, despite people insisting it was impossible due to there only being one set of phone lines. They just forced the split up parts to follow rules for sharing the infrastructure. It took a lot of work, but it happened. Gmail or google cloud's dependencies on the rest of Google are comparibly much easier to solve.

echelon 6y ago

> Africa will surely be dominated by big Chinese tech What are we waiting on?

DethNinja 6y ago

I completely disagree with you, in reality more competition will open up and smaller US/EU firms will take place of larger firms. This will result in decreasing inequality and help the general society as well. There is a good reason why anti-trust laws exist people. Billionaires are already a policy failure, we don’t need trillionaires in future as well.

enitihas 6y ago
> smaller US/EU firms will take place of larger firms. Why do you think smaller EU/US firms are more likely to take their place than Big Chinese firms. The Big Chinese firms will have economies of scale and more capital. > This will result in decreasing inequality and help the general society as well. I don't know how is that going to decrease inequality. Even if big tech is replaced by 5 small tech, there is no way on earth it will decrease inequality. Do you have any basis for such an extraordinary claim? > There is a good reason why anti-trust laws exist people. Billionaires are already a policy failure, we don’t need trillionaires in future as well. Sure. In the totally globalised world, you can decide you don't want big companies. This will just ensure a Chinese company dominates the market.
- DethNinja 6y ago
  I’ve been using software products past 25 years, and been developing them for quite a while, in my opinion scale of a company has a minor relevancy to software quality after a certain size. I never worked at google but I’m willing to bet giant firms like Google have bunch of problems with their organization size which limits their code quality, product delivery times, and their agileness. A smaller, more agile company can definitely produce better products than Google (case in point: protonmail). It will decrease income inequality because profits will go to different shareholders / employees.
  - enitihas 6y ago
    > , in my opinion scale of a company has a minor relevancy to software quality after a certain size. Possible, but I didn't talk about software quality, I talked about number of users. > (case in point: protonmail). I think your case undermines your argument. Protonmail is not a very successful product. It is behind even many paid mail services. If that is your idea of success then sure, many small companies will become like protonmail, while tencent mail might become the new gmail.

bogwog 6y ago

Yes, breaking up a tech giant like Google will potentially have short-term negative (or maybe even positive) implications for their products. But doing this will open the door for more competition, and in the long run will lead to new innovations and technologies, and a stronger economy. Chinese tech giants might take market share from Google, but other American companies will pop up with new and better technology that will ultimately come out on top, like it always does. The Chinese tech giants of today are giants largely because of government funding and government-sponsored corporate espionage/stolen tech, not because they're leading the world in producing new technologies. As for Microsoft? If a behemoth like Google gets broken up for anti-competitive practices, regulators will likely not want to stop there. More competition is always a good thing, even if it sounds scary.

nitwit005 6y ago

Remember that AT&T was split up successfully, despite people insisting it was impossible due to there only being one set of phone lines. They just forced the split up parts to follow rules for sharing the infrastructure. It took a lot of work, but it happened. Gmail or google cloud's dependencies on the rest of Google are comparibly much easier to solve.