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What's wrong with either of Fedora or Debian?

by __s 6y ago

michaelmrose 6y ago
Centos is too slow moving to be suitable for desktop use. Fedora updates to a new version every 6 months. Updates in place have historically been less than awesome and it adopts new tech before it is ready with no practical way to run either the old version of fedora or the old version of the software. Example rolling out pulseaudio when it didn't work well. One version I recall went from acceptable font rendering to can't stand to start at it levels of horribleness. The release of gnome 3.0 the release of KDE 4.0.
- dahfizz 6y ago
  I've had the same Fedora install on my laptop for years, at least 4 versions. Never any of the problems you described. Fedora was also the only thing that worked on my new laptop, because every other distro runs a super old kernel. I'm a super happy Fedora user :)
  - michaelmrose 6y ago
    I ran fedora from version 1 though I think version 14ish It's entirely possible its better now than it was.
    - dahfizz 6y ago
      Fedora 14 is 10 years old. Linux in general has gotten so much better in that time IMO
      - michaelmrose 6y ago
        I didn't fully give up on the red hat ecosystem for years after that I even ran stella based on centos and rebuilt rpms to have software that wasn't packaged for same. This is even still a thing based on Centos 7 and running gnome 2 not a gnome 2 derivative but actual gnome 2. I agree what you say is presumably so however Ubuntu LTS/Debian or arch update cadence, pick one, are still better than updating every 6 months for most users. If I want really up to date software I would like to have it now not months from now. If I have to wait I would like actual stability. Fedora is optimized for testing new tech to be rolled out by red hat not for usage by end users. As it stands you can benefit from the sweat of their brow while not actually using fedora by using something that actually is. Also note that if you install software from additional repos updates between versions may not be as smooth between versions. If you don't package choice is certainly going to be substantially inferior compared to arch or ubuntu.
- type0 6y ago
  > Centos is too slow moving to be suitable for desktop use. Depends on what you need. CentOS Stream is rolling release. > Updates in place have historically been less than awesome and it adopts new tech before it is ready with no practical way to run either the old version of fedora or the old version of the software. There's Modularity for different software versions. https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/modularity/ https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/modularity/

What's wrong with either of Fedora or Debian?

by __s 6y ago

What's wrong with either of Fedora or Debian?

Centos is too slow moving to be suitable for desktop use. Fedora updates to a new version every 6 months. Updates in place have historically been less than awesome and it adopts new tech before it is ready with no practical way to run either the old version of fedora or the old version of the software. Example rolling out pulseaudio when it didn't work well. One version I recall went from acceptable font rendering to can't stand to start at it levels of horribleness. The release of gnome 3.0 the release of KDE 4.0.

dahfizz 6y ago
I've had the same Fedora install on my laptop for years, at least 4 versions. Never any of the problems you described. Fedora was also the only thing that worked on my new laptop, because every other distro runs a super old kernel. I'm a super happy Fedora user :)
- michaelmrose 6y ago
  I ran fedora from version 1 though I think version 14ish It's entirely possible its better now than it was.
  - dahfizz 6y ago
    Fedora 14 is 10 years old. Linux in general has gotten so much better in that time IMO
    - michaelmrose 6y ago
      I didn't fully give up on the red hat ecosystem for years after that I even ran stella based on centos and rebuilt rpms to have software that wasn't packaged for same. This is even still a thing based on Centos 7 and running gnome 2 not a gnome 2 derivative but actual gnome 2. I agree what you say is presumably so however Ubuntu LTS/Debian or arch update cadence, pick one, are still better than updating every 6 months for most users. If I want really up to date software I would like to have it now not months from now. If I have to wait I would like actual stability. Fedora is optimized for testing new tech to be rolled out by red hat not for usage by end users. As it stands you can benefit from the sweat of their brow while not actually using fedora by using something that actually is. Also note that if you install software from additional repos updates between versions may not be as smooth between versions. If you don't package choice is certainly going to be substantially inferior compared to arch or ubuntu.
type0 6y ago
> Centos is too slow moving to be suitable for desktop use. Depends on what you need. CentOS Stream is rolling release. > Updates in place have historically been less than awesome and it adopts new tech before it is ready with no practical way to run either the old version of fedora or the old version of the software. There's Modularity for different software versions. https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/modularity/ https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/modularity/