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NHS in general is way less known than UK citizens think. Especially in Europe where the existence of a national healthcare system is not a religion but a norm.

vinay427 6y ago
> Especially in Europe where the existence of a national healthcare system is not a religion but a norm. An NHS-type system is not at all the norm in Europe. Comprehensive and universal health insurance or even single-payer health insurance are not the same as the single-payer (mostly) single-provider system in the UK. In most of the Germanic countries, for instance, the norm is closer to the multiple-payer multiple-provider system in the US in structure, albeit most certainly not in outcomes due to some important tweaks.
- DanBC 6y ago
  > single-provider system in the UK England doesn't have a single provider system. I don't know about Wales, Scotland, or Northern Ireland (they each have health systems that are devolved and thus separate).
  - vinay427 6y ago
    I did specify "(mostly)" which I think is rather accurate. It's rather close to a completely single-provider model (in each of the constituent devolved regions, as you note) compared to the system in Canada, for instance. > With largely public or government owned providers, this also fits into the 'Beveridge Model' of health care systems, sometimes considered to be single-payer, with relatively little private involvement compared to other universal systems. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-payer_healthcare#United_Kingdom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-payer_healthcare#United...
Semaphor 6y ago
I hear about NHS extremely often. I’m German
- heavenlyblue 6y ago
  If you use Hacker News, you probably do hear about it often. Do German newspapers cover the news about NHS all the time?
  - Semaphor 6y ago
    > If you use Hacker News, you probably do hear about it often. Well, this sub-thread was about someone saying NHS is not that well known… on HN ;) > Do German newspapers cover the news about NHS all the time? I wouldn’t know, I rarely read them.
    - heavenlyblue 6y ago
      So why would you argue in a thread that is about what people think in the general case?
      - Semaphor 6y ago
        Ìn the general case of having country specific things in the title, but not the name of the country.

vinay427 6y ago

> Especially in Europe where the existence of a national healthcare system is not a religion but a norm. An NHS-type system is not at all the norm in Europe. Comprehensive and universal health insurance or even single-payer health insurance are not the same as the single-payer (mostly) single-provider system in the UK. In most of the Germanic countries, for instance, the norm is closer to the multiple-payer multiple-provider system in the US in structure, albeit most certainly not in outcomes due to some important tweaks.

DanBC 6y ago
> single-provider system in the UK England doesn't have a single provider system. I don't know about Wales, Scotland, or Northern Ireland (they each have health systems that are devolved and thus separate).
- vinay427 6y ago
  I did specify "(mostly)" which I think is rather accurate. It's rather close to a completely single-provider model (in each of the constituent devolved regions, as you note) compared to the system in Canada, for instance. > With largely public or government owned providers, this also fits into the 'Beveridge Model' of health care systems, sometimes considered to be single-payer, with relatively little private involvement compared to other universal systems. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-payer_healthcare#United_Kingdom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-payer_healthcare#United...

Semaphor 6y ago

I hear about NHS extremely often. I’m German

heavenlyblue 6y ago
If you use Hacker News, you probably do hear about it often. Do German newspapers cover the news about NHS all the time?
- Semaphor 6y ago
  > If you use Hacker News, you probably do hear about it often. Well, this sub-thread was about someone saying NHS is not that well known… on HN ;) > Do German newspapers cover the news about NHS all the time? I wouldn’t know, I rarely read them.
  - heavenlyblue 6y ago
    So why would you argue in a thread that is about what people think in the general case?
    - Semaphor 6y ago
      Ìn the general case of having country specific things in the title, but not the name of the country.