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Funny how much this is being downvoted.

by z9e 6y ago

fernandotakai 6y ago
right? i never ever see right wing content on reddit's /r/all frontpage, but i ALWAYS see left-wing content (including there small subreddits with 10k+ upvotes). see, i'm not conservative (i'm absurdly socially liberal and a bit fiscally conservative -- i prefer less taxes and less government spending in general) but it's baffling that people call reddit a "right-wing-cesspool". if you look at unfiltered /r/all right now, most posts are related to the current protests.
- z9e 6y ago
  I'm fiscally conservative, and even trying to discuss those ideas on Reddit has met me with downvotes galore without being discussed. Even while trying to be respectful and open-minded. I gave up after a while. A lot of people can't fathom how conservative ideas would be shunned on there until they actually try to discuss them. Reddit is comprised of a lot of younger people who are indoctrinated to think in certain ways and haven't ventured far outside of their ideological bubble. So I just chalk it up to that and don't even go there anymore because nothing there adds much to my life other than pointless distraction.
  - orthecreedence 6y ago
    I'm a libertarian socialist/communist (aka rabid leftist) and even I am often annoyed by how much of a "liberal" (whatever that means anymore) echo chamber reddit is. People who have great points against the hive mind are often downvoted into oblivion. It's less of a place for discourse and more a place for voicing agreement. The worst experiences I've had are in the socialist/communist subreddits themselves. I've been banned from those places for saying things like "artists and homemakers are proletariat." I guess if you don't have a hammer in your hand you're just a neo-liberal reactionary?? And sure, T_D is a violent cesspool that should have been gone long ago, but in general I'm sick of social media platforms deciding for us what views are acceptable and what aren't. Their algorithms constantly guide people into weird places that drive engagement but at the expense of critical thought and real public discourse. I'd much prefer free speech and neutral platforms over corporations deciding what we are to believe. But I suppose reddit's problems are now cultural and that's a more difficult problem to fix than adjusting an algorithm.
    - fernandotakai 6y ago
      >I'm sick of social media platforms deciding for us what views are acceptable and what aren't. i couldn't agree more. i never commented/subbed to the_donald. i added to my /r/all filter and i don't have to see it anymore. btw, i do that to 99% of all political subs -- i just filter them, and now i don't have to interact. now, do i want them banned? nah, no way -- everyone deserves a place to discuss whatever they want, be it extreme left or extreme right politics. hell, i even disagree with chapo trap house being quarantined! no community should be "quarantined".
    - Avicebron 6y ago
      I've also been thoroughly confused by a weird form of "liberal" that has infested social media. It's not necessarily left-leaning as in "help the poor workers, unionize, strong manufacturing domestically, etc". It's "offshore everything, maximize profit" damn the workers. It's very much not a left position in the traditional sense.
      - orthecreedence 6y ago
        Yeah it's bizarre. (Us) Americans sure love to chop up our words, and it seems even more we love to create binary classifications for three different axes of beliefs (social, political, economic). Like, ok, if I'm a communist but believe the government should be as small as possible to serve only its core set of functions, which box do I fit into? If I think women should have the right to choose what's best for their bodies, but I support free speech and the right to bear arms, what am I? The whole left vs right, liberal vs conservative thing is so stupid, but our FPTP voting system and media are happy to keep the fight raging.
        fernandotakai 6y ago
        >Like, ok, if I'm a communist but believe the government should be as small as possible to serve only its core set of functions, which box do I fit into? If I think women should have the right to choose what's best for their bodies, but I support free speech and the right to bear arms, what am I? that's how i feel -- i want a small government and i want people to do whatever they want with their own bodies while being able to own guns. people say i'm libertarian, but i don't agree with a lot of libertarian points of view (i still think government has a place in society and i think we do need some social safety net, like public health care and even negative income taxes.). there's not a box that i feel inside other than "classical liberal" (in the milton friedman sense of the term) but whenever i say that, i' met with either laughter or hate. honestly, it's quite hard to discuss political issues nowadays on the internet, where everyone is super extreme and if you don't fit any boxes, you get silenced (including here, btw).
  - kyleblarson 6y ago
    "Reddit is comprised of a lot of younger people who are indoctrinated to think in certain ways and haven't ventured far outside of their ideological bubble." This is correct. They have been indoctrinated to respond to any dissenting discourse with cries of 'nazi', 'racist', etc. rather than actual arguments.
- bitwize 6y ago
  There are upsides to being on the right side of history. One of which is that people and organizations who are decent or want to appear decent will support you. Objectivity is fundamentally at odds with "political balance" in the sense of equal time or space being given to left- or right-wing content, because reality has a liberal bias.
- walls 6y ago
  What is your idea of some good 'right wing content' that should have been on reddit's front page?

Funny how much this is being downvoted.

by z9e 6y ago

Funny how much this is being downvoted.

right? i never ever see right wing content on reddit's /r/all frontpage, but i ALWAYS see left-wing content (including there small subreddits with 10k+ upvotes). see, i'm not conservative (i'm absurdly socially liberal and a bit fiscally conservative -- i prefer less taxes and less government spending in general) but it's baffling that people call reddit a "right-wing-cesspool". if you look at unfiltered /r/all right now, most posts are related to the current protests.

z9e 6y ago
I'm fiscally conservative, and even trying to discuss those ideas on Reddit has met me with downvotes galore without being discussed. Even while trying to be respectful and open-minded. I gave up after a while. A lot of people can't fathom how conservative ideas would be shunned on there until they actually try to discuss them. Reddit is comprised of a lot of younger people who are indoctrinated to think in certain ways and haven't ventured far outside of their ideological bubble. So I just chalk it up to that and don't even go there anymore because nothing there adds much to my life other than pointless distraction.
- orthecreedence 6y ago
  I'm a libertarian socialist/communist (aka rabid leftist) and even I am often annoyed by how much of a "liberal" (whatever that means anymore) echo chamber reddit is. People who have great points against the hive mind are often downvoted into oblivion. It's less of a place for discourse and more a place for voicing agreement. The worst experiences I've had are in the socialist/communist subreddits themselves. I've been banned from those places for saying things like "artists and homemakers are proletariat." I guess if you don't have a hammer in your hand you're just a neo-liberal reactionary?? And sure, T_D is a violent cesspool that should have been gone long ago, but in general I'm sick of social media platforms deciding for us what views are acceptable and what aren't. Their algorithms constantly guide people into weird places that drive engagement but at the expense of critical thought and real public discourse. I'd much prefer free speech and neutral platforms over corporations deciding what we are to believe. But I suppose reddit's problems are now cultural and that's a more difficult problem to fix than adjusting an algorithm.
  - fernandotakai 6y ago
    >I'm sick of social media platforms deciding for us what views are acceptable and what aren't. i couldn't agree more. i never commented/subbed to the_donald. i added to my /r/all filter and i don't have to see it anymore. btw, i do that to 99% of all political subs -- i just filter them, and now i don't have to interact. now, do i want them banned? nah, no way -- everyone deserves a place to discuss whatever they want, be it extreme left or extreme right politics. hell, i even disagree with chapo trap house being quarantined! no community should be "quarantined".
  - Avicebron 6y ago
    I've also been thoroughly confused by a weird form of "liberal" that has infested social media. It's not necessarily left-leaning as in "help the poor workers, unionize, strong manufacturing domestically, etc". It's "offshore everything, maximize profit" damn the workers. It's very much not a left position in the traditional sense.
    - orthecreedence 6y ago
      Yeah it's bizarre. (Us) Americans sure love to chop up our words, and it seems even more we love to create binary classifications for three different axes of beliefs (social, political, economic). Like, ok, if I'm a communist but believe the government should be as small as possible to serve only its core set of functions, which box do I fit into? If I think women should have the right to choose what's best for their bodies, but I support free speech and the right to bear arms, what am I? The whole left vs right, liberal vs conservative thing is so stupid, but our FPTP voting system and media are happy to keep the fight raging.
      - fernandotakai 6y ago
        >Like, ok, if I'm a communist but believe the government should be as small as possible to serve only its core set of functions, which box do I fit into? If I think women should have the right to choose what's best for their bodies, but I support free speech and the right to bear arms, what am I? that's how i feel -- i want a small government and i want people to do whatever they want with their own bodies while being able to own guns. people say i'm libertarian, but i don't agree with a lot of libertarian points of view (i still think government has a place in society and i think we do need some social safety net, like public health care and even negative income taxes.). there's not a box that i feel inside other than "classical liberal" (in the milton friedman sense of the term) but whenever i say that, i' met with either laughter or hate. honestly, it's quite hard to discuss political issues nowadays on the internet, where everyone is super extreme and if you don't fit any boxes, you get silenced (including here, btw).
- kyleblarson 6y ago
  "Reddit is comprised of a lot of younger people who are indoctrinated to think in certain ways and haven't ventured far outside of their ideological bubble." This is correct. They have been indoctrinated to respond to any dissenting discourse with cries of 'nazi', 'racist', etc. rather than actual arguments.
bitwize 6y ago
There are upsides to being on the right side of history. One of which is that people and organizations who are decent or want to appear decent will support you. Objectivity is fundamentally at odds with "political balance" in the sense of equal time or space being given to left- or right-wing content, because reality has a liberal bias.
walls 6y ago
What is your idea of some good 'right wing content' that should have been on reddit's front page?