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Dave Chappelle had a bit that went something like this: >Honey, did you see this? - Apparently, the Police have been beating up negroes like hotcakes! The spe

Dave Chappelle had a bit that went something like this: >Honey, did you see this? - Apparently, the Police have been beating up negroes like hotcakes! The special he mentioned this joke was aired in 2000. I bring this up because it highlights that for some people the police haven't been a force of good for a long time, and smartphones and social media are forcing people to confront that fact. There has been many arguments that people have always been making about how the police in this country been over militarized despite have far fewer training than actual soldiers, and these weapons built for use in the middle east are being used against the poor in the US. IMO, it's not that the police is now more overall a force of "evil", is that there always been systemically corrupt, and you have just been to well off to notice.

Aqua_Geek 6y ago
"Racism is not getting worse, it's getting filmed." — Will Smith
throwaway894345 6y ago
That joke doesn't support the claim that police aren't a force for good, only that they have been a force for less good for blacks. Of course no one is better off by "abolishing the police" (unless you're a fan of a global dark age).
- nxc18 6y ago
  this argument always comes up and its complete and utter bullshit. Please think about what you say for more than a half second before you say it. Police are not that effective, society does not completely collapse in their absence, and there needs to be a cost-benefit analysis done for even things that obviously seem good. When police murder and assault people regularly, using military equipment, that's a serious cost to take into consideration. Overpolicing has serious consequences, and the evidence suggests it actually increases crime. When NYC cops stopped proactive policing, _serious crime decreased_. https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/09/nyc-cops-did-a-work-stop-yet-crime-dropped/ https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/09/nyc-cops-did-a-work-...
  - throwaway894345 6y ago
    > This argument always comes up and its complete and utter bullshit. Please think about what you say for more than a half second before you say it. "I'm not here in good faith" is an even shorter way of saying the same thing.

Aqua_Geek 6y ago

"Racism is not getting worse, it's getting filmed." — Will Smith

throwaway894345 6y ago

That joke doesn't support the claim that police aren't a force for good, only that they have been a force for less good for blacks. Of course no one is better off by "abolishing the police" (unless you're a fan of a global dark age).

nxc18 6y ago
this argument always comes up and its complete and utter bullshit. Please think about what you say for more than a half second before you say it. Police are not that effective, society does not completely collapse in their absence, and there needs to be a cost-benefit analysis done for even things that obviously seem good. When police murder and assault people regularly, using military equipment, that's a serious cost to take into consideration. Overpolicing has serious consequences, and the evidence suggests it actually increases crime. When NYC cops stopped proactive policing, _serious crime decreased_. https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/09/nyc-cops-did-a-work-stop-yet-crime-dropped/ https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/09/nyc-cops-did-a-work-...
- throwaway894345 6y ago
  > This argument always comes up and its complete and utter bullshit. Please think about what you say for more than a half second before you say it. "I'm not here in good faith" is an even shorter way of saying the same thing.