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> Up here in Scandinavia, we often laugh at how much Germans interact with humans, send letters and faxes, and make phonecalls in their business lives. They are

by ardy42 6y ago

> Up here in Scandinavia, we often laugh at how much Germans interact with humans, send letters and faxes, and make phonecalls in their business lives. They are woefully far behind. From what I understand the same is true for the south. I wouldn't necessarily call it "being ahead" to embrace increased isolation from other human beings.

LargoLasskhyfv 6y ago
It's not about the isolation. It's about enabling absurd business models by all sorts of outsourcing, promising to simplify, but in reality complicating things by having to implement all sorts of intrusive anti-fraud checks, because anything automatic can and will be defrauded. Which in turn leads to misery of all involved legit parties, loss of quality of life, by being reduced to some cog in some machine. Oh, of course jobs! The bullshit ones. With the exception of the few at the top. /me snorts...
gspr 6y ago
> I wouldn't necessarily call it "being ahead" to embrace increased isolation from other human beings. Yeah, sorry, I wasn't clear. I was referring to stuff like this in GP's comment: > Article about Gaia-X in major German newspaper FAZ explained that on AWS you can spin up your own infrastructure, "sometimes even without talking to anyone from sales", from your home! I personally love human interactions, but the idea that I'd have to call Joe in sales to spin up a VM for a few hours is ludicrous. Likewise for a lot of routine mundane stuff that is easily automatable. I think the world will be poorer if we move humans out of our daily interactions, but that doesn't mean there isn't a lot to gain by moving the humans to where they can what they do best - namely be human!
- dathinab 6y ago
  It should be noted that FAZ is not a tech news paper but a local to Frankfurt one. So the article was written by a person having closer to no tech understanding for persons without tech understandings. There are proper tech news paper in which you will not find such thinks. ;). Edit: They do have a technical section but that is 70% cars and the rest are other physical tech thinks like kitchen utensils and vacuum robots.
  - brnt 6y ago
    Faz isnt a tech newspaper but also not a local one. Its famous throughout Europe.

by ardy42 6y ago

LargoLasskhyfv 6y ago

It's not about the isolation. It's about enabling absurd business models by all sorts of outsourcing, promising to simplify, but in reality complicating things by having to implement all sorts of intrusive anti-fraud checks, because anything automatic can and will be defrauded. Which in turn leads to misery of all involved legit parties, loss of quality of life, by being reduced to some cog in some machine. Oh, of course jobs! The bullshit ones. With the exception of the few at the top. /me snorts...

gspr 6y ago

> I wouldn't necessarily call it "being ahead" to embrace increased isolation from other human beings. Yeah, sorry, I wasn't clear. I was referring to stuff like this in GP's comment: > Article about Gaia-X in major German newspaper FAZ explained that on AWS you can spin up your own infrastructure, "sometimes even without talking to anyone from sales", from your home! I personally love human interactions, but the idea that I'd have to call Joe in sales to spin up a VM for a few hours is ludicrous. Likewise for a lot of routine mundane stuff that is easily automatable. I think the world will be poorer if we move humans out of our daily interactions, but that doesn't mean there isn't a lot to gain by moving the humans to where they can what they do best - namely be human!

dathinab 6y ago
It should be noted that FAZ is not a tech news paper but a local to Frankfurt one. So the article was written by a person having closer to no tech understanding for persons without tech understandings. There are proper tech news paper in which you will not find such thinks. ;). Edit: They do have a technical section but that is 70% cars and the rest are other physical tech thinks like kitchen utensils and vacuum robots.
- brnt 6y ago
  Faz isnt a tech newspaper but also not a local one. Its famous throughout Europe.