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> Volt was the unfortunate casualty of an unrelated plant closure to make shareholders happy. The plant wouldn't have been closed if the Volt, which was a comp

> Volt was the unfortunate casualty of an unrelated plant closure to make shareholders happy. The plant wouldn't have been closed if the Volt, which was a compliance car, were necessary. To my original point, the Bolt's popularity removed the need for the Volt as a compliance vehicle and thus made the plant closure feasible. > Also, GM argues That's never a good argument, GM Marketing is never going to issue a statement that contradicts it's actions.

WorldMaker 6y ago
The plant closed because Ford decided Americans don't want an American-built sedan this decade, to great shareholder applause, and GM was forced by activist shareholders to follow suit. The Gen 2 Volt was a sedan in the sedan plant. It had nothing to do with the Volt itself and everything to do with killing the Cruise, with the Volt merely a casualty. (The Gen 1 Volt was a hatchback intended to push the Hamtramck sedan plant away from being entirely sedans. A huge mistake with the Gen 2 was sedan-ifying it to cut costs at that plant rather than moving it to another plant or following the original Gen 1 plan to move Hamtramck to mixing in more "light cross-overs".) > That's never a good argument, GM Marketing is never going to issue a statement that contradicts it's actions. Who said anything about GM Marketing? I'm talking about GM Shareholder reports. It's an arm of marketing, sure, but with the activist parasites chumming the GM Shareholder waters, their Shareholder reports have been quite honest.
- cptskippy 6y ago
  My point is that, in the absence of the Bolt, there would have been a stronger argument for saving the Volt because of it's role as a compliance car. The success of the Bolt removed any argument for keeping the Volt around.
  - WorldMaker 6y ago
    The Volt wasn't a compliance car and the only argument you've presented from what I can read is a tautology focused around the fact that it was canceled so therefore was a compliance car, which doesn't make sense given the factors that were involved in it being canceled. It wasn't canceled because it was a compliance car. It wasn't canceled because the Bolt was successful. It was canceled because GM shuttered their entire lineup of sedans.

WorldMaker 6y ago

The plant closed because Ford decided Americans don't want an American-built sedan this decade, to great shareholder applause, and GM was forced by activist shareholders to follow suit. The Gen 2 Volt was a sedan in the sedan plant. It had nothing to do with the Volt itself and everything to do with killing the Cruise, with the Volt merely a casualty. (The Gen 1 Volt was a hatchback intended to push the Hamtramck sedan plant away from being entirely sedans. A huge mistake with the Gen 2 was sedan-ifying it to cut costs at that plant rather than moving it to another plant or following the original Gen 1 plan to move Hamtramck to mixing in more "light cross-overs".) > That's never a good argument, GM Marketing is never going to issue a statement that contradicts it's actions. Who said anything about GM Marketing? I'm talking about GM Shareholder reports. It's an arm of marketing, sure, but with the activist parasites chumming the GM Shareholder waters, their Shareholder reports have been quite honest.

cptskippy 6y ago
My point is that, in the absence of the Bolt, there would have been a stronger argument for saving the Volt because of it's role as a compliance car. The success of the Bolt removed any argument for keeping the Volt around.
- WorldMaker 6y ago
  The Volt wasn't a compliance car and the only argument you've presented from what I can read is a tautology focused around the fact that it was canceled so therefore was a compliance car, which doesn't make sense given the factors that were involved in it being canceled. It wasn't canceled because it was a compliance car. It wasn't canceled because the Bolt was successful. It was canceled because GM shuttered their entire lineup of sedans.