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Do you have any evidence that the numbers have been falsified or is your comment pure cynicism?
by koheripbal 6y ago
Do you have any evidence that the numbers have been falsified or is your comment pure cynicism?
- mylons 6y agowhat evidence do you have that they’re accurate other than taking the news’ word for it?
- riffraff 6y agoThe default state is that statistics bureaus can be trusted to report mostly correct numbers even if they spin them (e.g. report employment vs unemployment according to what's better). So if someone says "they are fake numbers" they should be ready to corroborate that with evidence, it's not on the people who believe the institutions to prove that they are correct.
- mylons 6y agokind of strange that the BLS would release this on a weekend when it wouldn't effect markets. lol. https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/06/05/may-2020-jobs-report-misclassification-error/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/06/05/may-2020-...
- koheripbal 6y agoI think you have the burden of evidence backwards. The DoL has provided data in the report and has a good reputation. If you think the data is wrong or deceptive, then you need to provide evidence of that.
- mylons 6y agohttps://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/06/05/may-2020-jobs-report-misclassification-error/#click=https://t.co/wWlnV3lN2I https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/06/05/may-2020-...
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- dayofthedaleks 6y agoI'm saying accellerating GDP contraction implies a disconnect.
- elicash 6y agoNot OP, and I think numbers are accurate. But I think "pure cynicism" is too dismissive for an administration that is somewhat open about wanting to keep numbers lower than their reality and fires inspectors general without proper cause (though DOL IG left by choice). That said, the career professionals in DOL would absolutely leak if they were being told to fudge this data. That's why I have basically no doubts. It's worth adding, there are lots of unique categorical employment issues that have presented themselves during the pandemic that can have large impacts on numbers. There's plenty you could imagine political officials arguing with the career staff about for legit reasons. If this was happening and affecting numbers to a large degree, I think we'd be hearing leaks about that, too.
- koheripbal 6y ago> for an administration that is somewhat open about wanting to keep numbers lower than their reality This assumes that the Department of Labor is taking direction from the administration. There's no indication of that.
- elicash 6y agoThat's my entire point - we'd see leaks if the political leadership of DOL (aka "the administration") were interfering. See my comment.