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> How do they think Google became what it is, or most American companies like Amazon? Because of us government funding which created silicon valley. Silicon Va

> How do they think Google became what it is, or most American companies like Amazon? Because of us government funding which created silicon valley. Silicon Valley itself is pretty much a DoD project. The foundation of the internet and many of these companies were laid by government - direct spending, subsidies, tax breaks and in amazon's case, legal protection ( they didn't have to collect state taxes ) until fairly recently. > A company like Airbus makes some sort of sense since the government heavily funds Boeing/Lockheed Martin via defense contracts. This is silicon valley. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Valley#History_(pre-1970s) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Valley#History_(pre-19... > But Amazon/Google and VC-backed tech startups and companies? Many of the VCs had indirect government ties. But that's besides the point. Amazon/Google doesn't exist without silicon valley which the government created, government subsidies and government protection. And this isn't including the government's role in keeping international markets open to google/amazon/etc. Notice how there wasn't much pushback from most countries while google/amazon gobbled up entire countries? Now compare that to intense pushback china gets for any and everything. > Not to mention that the pay for software developers and engineers in general in Europe is ridiculously low for a comparable position in the United States, or even Japan. How are they going to retain talent? Considering american tech companies own the european market why wouldn't american developers get higher pay? If europeans protected their market and european tech companies take over the european market, tech pay would inevitably rise.

thecleaner 6y ago
> Now compare that to intense pushback china gets for any and everything. Its much easier to trust democratic governments than autocratic ones. If China were a democracy I highly doubt this would be the case. Sure some would push back but many would back it too. The push back that China receives is also because of their economic colonialism and I guess rightfully so. German car companies for example dont receive as much push back. Ericsson/Nokia doesn't receive as much pushback as their counterpart Huwawei.
- dntbnmpls 6y ago
  > Its much easier to trust democratic governments than autocratic ones. History shows otherwise. They are equally shady. After all, it was a democracy that broke every treaty with the natives and exterminated them. But I guess it all depends on your biases and agenda. Certainly, nobody can objectively say that US, Britain, France, etc as any less shadier than any autocratic countries. > If China were a democracy I highly doubt this would be the case. Really? Bolivia is a democracy. Venezuela is a democracy. Russia is a democracy. If china were a democracy, the chinese people would vote to fully annex hong kong and taiwan. And being a democracy, I suppose the chinese government would have to follow through, huh? > The push back that China receives is also because of their economic colonialism and I guess rightfully so. Now this is rather absurd. Especially considering it is us trying to force china to adopt our ways. But agenda tends to blind people. > German car companies for example dont receive as much push back. Ericsson/Nokia doesn't receive as much pushback as their counterpart Huwawei. But iranian, venezuelan, russian, etc companies do. And conveniently saudi arabian companies don't. They are not a democracy. So there goes your theory about democracy. It has nothing to do with democracy. It's about geopolitics and power. The need to maintain dominance over the world as long as we can.

thecleaner 6y ago

> Now compare that to intense pushback china gets for any and everything. Its much easier to trust democratic governments than autocratic ones. If China were a democracy I highly doubt this would be the case. Sure some would push back but many would back it too. The push back that China receives is also because of their economic colonialism and I guess rightfully so. German car companies for example dont receive as much push back. Ericsson/Nokia doesn't receive as much pushback as their counterpart Huwawei.

dntbnmpls 6y ago
> Its much easier to trust democratic governments than autocratic ones. History shows otherwise. They are equally shady. After all, it was a democracy that broke every treaty with the natives and exterminated them. But I guess it all depends on your biases and agenda. Certainly, nobody can objectively say that US, Britain, France, etc as any less shadier than any autocratic countries. > If China were a democracy I highly doubt this would be the case. Really? Bolivia is a democracy. Venezuela is a democracy. Russia is a democracy. If china were a democracy, the chinese people would vote to fully annex hong kong and taiwan. And being a democracy, I suppose the chinese government would have to follow through, huh? > The push back that China receives is also because of their economic colonialism and I guess rightfully so. Now this is rather absurd. Especially considering it is us trying to force china to adopt our ways. But agenda tends to blind people. > German car companies for example dont receive as much push back. Ericsson/Nokia doesn't receive as much pushback as their counterpart Huwawei. But iranian, venezuelan, russian, etc companies do. And conveniently saudi arabian companies don't. They are not a democracy. So there goes your theory about democracy. It has nothing to do with democracy. It's about geopolitics and power. The need to maintain dominance over the world as long as we can.