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> * A good, free education system * Social security * Good healthcare system * Proper democracy * Politicians who aren't clowns * A total of 500 police killings

• readarticle 6y ago
  The implication is these factors will suffice in attracting and retaining talent, instead of simply paying them more. Completely delusional in the face of the past thirty years or so, but it remains a worryingly common talking point in WE “tech adjacent” circles.
• sildur 6y ago
  But they do have all to do with low salaries. My salary is low for American standards, but I can rely on public hospitals, public schools, and public transportation systems. I do not need to save for retirement either. Or for my kids tuition.
  • mtberatwork 6y ago
    > My salary is low for American standards but I can rely on public hospitals, public schools, and public transportation systems. I do not need to save for retirement either. Or for my kids tuition. I think about this quite a bit, while the median middle class salary is higher in the US, the burden to fund everything out of pocket here is enormous. If salaries are 10-20% higher in the US, much of that goes out the window to fund things like health care, retirement, higher education, daycare/pre-K education, high rents, etc. Things that most Europeans take for granted. All of a sudden that 10-20% gap seems much smaller. Also keep in mind that not everyone working in tech in the US is making SV level salaries.
    • distances 6y ago
      Reading by the HN comments the salary difference in IT is 100-200% though, so there you start getting some difference. A medium/median salaried person would be much better off in Western Europe for sure.