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> You will waste a LOT of time getting it set up and fiddling with it. I'm always a bit surprised by people claiming Gnus is hard to configure. When I decided

> You will waste a LOT of time getting it set up and fiddling with it. I'm always a bit surprised by people claiming Gnus is hard to configure. When I decided to try Gnus, I opened the manual and it says which variables to set: (setq user-full-name "My Name" user-mail-address "my.email@address" send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it smtpmail-smtp-server "smtp.gmail.com" smtpmail-stream-type 'starttls smtpmail-smtp-service 587 gnus-select-method '(nnimap "gmail" (nnimap-address "imap.gmail.com") (nnimap-server-port 993) (nnimap-stream ssl) (nnmail-expiry-wait immediate))) Must have taken less than 10 minutes to setup. Haven't touched that configuration since then. Now, many people complain about the difficulty of setting Gnus up, so it must be true. My best guess is that what is actually hard to setup is external mail fetching and indexing. I've never tried that. Were offlineimap and dovecot hard to setup? I don't paticularly feel the need for external fetching and indexing: Gnus is already much, much faster than loading the Gmail webapp, and is comparable in speed to using the web app's reload button (not the browser reload button). Now, many people also complain that fetching mail with Gnus is slow, so it must be true. My best guess here is that either they are comparing to something much faster than Gmail or they have a very different email usage pattern than I do. Maybe they keep a lot of email in their inbox?

tetris11 6y ago
I'm an emacser, but I have never touched gnus purely because I have no idea how to make a dynamic link towards an email in my org projects file. With gmail, I simply copy the URL and mark it up under my project headline in the org file. How do you do that with gnus?
- profsnuggles 6y ago
  When you are looking at the email in gnus C-c l (org-store-link) then in the org file C-c M-l (org-insert-last-stored-link) I think. I'm not sure what you mean by dynamic link and have personally never needed to link to emails.
  - omaranto 6y ago
    Minor point: org-store-link comes with no keybinding, C-c l is something you chose in your config (I use C-c s). I also wonder hat "dynamic" means in dynamic link.
    - profsnuggles 6y ago
      This is not the first time someone has corrected me about default emacs keybindings. Considering that I probably set up that keybinding 15 years ago, it sure feels to me like it's part of emacs. I guess the next time I am trying to give some advice I need to do some software archeology on my .emacs first.
throwaway_pdp09 6y ago
Maybe it's better now. Many years ago I sat down to properly make a move from whatever email client I had, to gnus. I wasted a lot of time. While I got it working pretty fast it glitched repeatedly. I just wanted a working email client in emacs, I couldn't get that, I gave up. (Edit: deleted, read the article first, dickhead) (I don't like HTML email either, but that's a separate issue)

tetris11 6y ago

I'm an emacser, but I have never touched gnus purely because I have no idea how to make a dynamic link towards an email in my org projects file. With gmail, I simply copy the URL and mark it up under my project headline in the org file. How do you do that with gnus?

profsnuggles 6y ago
When you are looking at the email in gnus C-c l (org-store-link) then in the org file C-c M-l (org-insert-last-stored-link) I think. I'm not sure what you mean by dynamic link and have personally never needed to link to emails.
- omaranto 6y ago
  Minor point: org-store-link comes with no keybinding, C-c l is something you chose in your config (I use C-c s). I also wonder hat "dynamic" means in dynamic link.
  - profsnuggles 6y ago
    This is not the first time someone has corrected me about default emacs keybindings. Considering that I probably set up that keybinding 15 years ago, it sure feels to me like it's part of emacs. I guess the next time I am trying to give some advice I need to do some software archeology on my .emacs first.

throwaway_pdp09 6y ago

Maybe it's better now. Many years ago I sat down to properly make a move from whatever email client I had, to gnus. I wasted a lot of time. While I got it working pretty fast it glitched repeatedly. I just wanted a working email client in emacs, I couldn't get that, I gave up. (Edit: deleted, read the article first, dickhead) (I don't like HTML email either, but that's a separate issue)