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Interesting. Do you have details to share, because I'd vaguely planned to equip my garage with electrical charging capability? I can assure you though that nobo

Interesting. Do you have details to share, because I'd vaguely planned to equip my garage with electrical charging capability? I can assure you though that nobody is paying several hundred bucks per month for a garage or parking lot except maybe in the very city center of the four big cities in Germany, like next to the iconic main attraction of that city. It seems the public sector wants to grab the money for EV charging, with public parking lots being dedicated to it, while there's no plan for private proprietors to install their own charging.

cookiengineer 6y ago
> Do you have details to share, because I'd vaguely planned to equip my garage with electrical charging capability? Where do you live? The regulations vary a lot from state to state and even city to city, as the local Bauamt or Baubehoerde usually has the last say when it comes to approval/denial of installations like this. In the BW area there's something available like the Netze-BW initiative that does most of the mentioned regulations/paperwork for you [1]. I'm not sure whether or not RWE or EON (the energy suppliers for more Northern states of Germany) have a similar initiative, but it seems that you can get the "Wallboxes" from them as well [2]. In the larger cities like Karlsruhe, I've seen a lot of the charger stations of Innogy [3] that seem to offer installation services for parking lots and private garages as well as for businesses. > I can assure you though that nobody is paying several hundred bucks per month for a garage or parking lot Prices kinda exploded around the Baden-Wuerttemberg area over the last years in the "Regionalmetropolen" aka where most industries or businesses are located. Can only speak for those, though I'd imagine that a lot of the mid-larger cities have even more problems with higher densities of people/m^2. [1] https://www.netze-bw.de/netzanschluss/elektromobilitaet-zuhause https://www.netze-bw.de/netzanschluss/elektromobilitaet-zuha... [2] https://www.eon.de/de/eonerleben/elektroauto-zuhause-laden-wallbox.html https://www.eon.de/de/eonerleben/elektroauto-zuhause-laden-w... [3] https://www.innogy-emobility.com/elektromobilitaet/produkte https://www.innogy-emobility.com/elektromobilitaet/produkte
- tannhaeuser 6y ago
  Thanks very much for the info! I'm in HH, but have been to Freiburg frequently some years ago, which is certainly a lovely (and expensive) place, but even there I'd be surprised to hear prices in the range you mentioned. Maybe it has changed recently.
- gambiting 6y ago
  I'm guessing that while a proper type 2 charger might be impossible to install, but if you have a regular electrical socket you can just use a 3-pin "granny" charger. Sure it's slow but overnight it should be enough, and you don't have to ask anyone for permission for these.

cookiengineer 6y ago

> Do you have details to share, because I'd vaguely planned to equip my garage with electrical charging capability? Where do you live? The regulations vary a lot from state to state and even city to city, as the local Bauamt or Baubehoerde usually has the last say when it comes to approval/denial of installations like this. In the BW area there's something available like the Netze-BW initiative that does most of the mentioned regulations/paperwork for you [1]. I'm not sure whether or not RWE or EON (the energy suppliers for more Northern states of Germany) have a similar initiative, but it seems that you can get the "Wallboxes" from them as well [2]. In the larger cities like Karlsruhe, I've seen a lot of the charger stations of Innogy [3] that seem to offer installation services for parking lots and private garages as well as for businesses. > I can assure you though that nobody is paying several hundred bucks per month for a garage or parking lot Prices kinda exploded around the Baden-Wuerttemberg area over the last years in the "Regionalmetropolen" aka where most industries or businesses are located. Can only speak for those, though I'd imagine that a lot of the mid-larger cities have even more problems with higher densities of people/m^2. [1] https://www.netze-bw.de/netzanschluss/elektromobilitaet-zuhause https://www.netze-bw.de/netzanschluss/elektromobilitaet-zuha... [2] https://www.eon.de/de/eonerleben/elektroauto-zuhause-laden-wallbox.html https://www.eon.de/de/eonerleben/elektroauto-zuhause-laden-w... [3] https://www.innogy-emobility.com/elektromobilitaet/produkte https://www.innogy-emobility.com/elektromobilitaet/produkte

tannhaeuser 6y ago
Thanks very much for the info! I'm in HH, but have been to Freiburg frequently some years ago, which is certainly a lovely (and expensive) place, but even there I'd be surprised to hear prices in the range you mentioned. Maybe it has changed recently.
gambiting 6y ago
I'm guessing that while a proper type 2 charger might be impossible to install, but if you have a regular electrical socket you can just use a 3-pin "granny" charger. Sure it's slow but overnight it should be enough, and you don't have to ask anyone for permission for these.