Regarding Java, sure. But in the context of Clojure, it's here right now as well, no need to wait for anything. I also don't really understand the "bloat" comm

Regarding Java, sure. But in the context of Clojure, it's here right now as well, no need to wait for anything. I also don't really understand the "bloat" comment. What do you refer too? Are you referring to the fact the JVM supports too many features?