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If you don't have a parking space, you probably don't have an EV and whether gas stations have chargers or not is irrelevant. If you do, it doesn't matter if y

by eloff 6y ago

If you don't have a parking space, you probably don't have an EV and whether gas stations have chargers or not is irrelevant. If you do, it doesn't matter if you're renting or not, you have a similar ability to charge at home. What you probably can't do is install a dedicated fast charger unless you somehow plan to take it with you when you move, or work a deal with the landlord to share the cost. I think the one thing that does change in Germany is more people live in apartments where you have less options for installing a charger than in the suburbs in your own garage in the US.

eigenvector 6y ago
Parent comment said "no dedicated parking space" which is a different thing. When I lived in Toronto, I had a resident permit issued by the city to park on the street on same block as my building, but I was at the mercy of whatever space was available. Some days I'd get a spot right in front of my building, some days I had to walk around the corner. This is a pretty common parking scenario in dense, older areas - there is no dedicated parking lot and the space you are parking on is part of the public realm.
virgilp 6y ago
Not in Germany, but I do have a dedicated parking space, I could totally afford an electric car, an yet it would not be practical to get one. Here are my reasons: - I need one car, not many (I'm lucky to get _one_ space, ain't gonna get several!). - I can't charge it there, there's no infrastructure. Sure, I can ask city to add infrastructure but... good luck with that, it's going to take a while, there are a lot of problems to solve (besides actually installing power near my space, we need a meter to charge me, and it needs to be a "smart meter" that doesn't allow everybody to use power paid by me; it needs to be at least moderately vandalism-proof. And I need to find a way to leave my car plugged in for extended periods of time, unsupervised, without fearing that someone will steal stuff from it - e.g. the charging cable?) - If all the above are solved - I still need to use that car for extended trips (vacations, visiting parents in a different city). Those would still mean that I need to charge "on the road". Due to the first point, it'd still be a challenge to go 100% electric even if I had the "charging at home" part covered. Really, I think if we don't solve the "charging in gas stations" part, electric vehicle use is going to be inherently limited.
de_watcher 6y ago
> If you don't have a parking space, you probably don't have an EV Not true. And if every gas station has a fast charger then you don't need a parking space with a charger.

by eloff 6y ago

eigenvector 6y ago

Parent comment said "no dedicated parking space" which is a different thing. When I lived in Toronto, I had a resident permit issued by the city to park on the street on same block as my building, but I was at the mercy of whatever space was available. Some days I'd get a spot right in front of my building, some days I had to walk around the corner. This is a pretty common parking scenario in dense, older areas - there is no dedicated parking lot and the space you are parking on is part of the public realm.

virgilp 6y ago

Not in Germany, but I do have a dedicated parking space, I could totally afford an electric car, an yet it would not be practical to get one. Here are my reasons: - I need one car, not many (I'm lucky to get _one_ space, ain't gonna get several!). - I can't charge it there, there's no infrastructure. Sure, I can ask city to add infrastructure but... good luck with that, it's going to take a while, there are a lot of problems to solve (besides actually installing power near my space, we need a meter to charge me, and it needs to be a "smart meter" that doesn't allow everybody to use power paid by me; it needs to be at least moderately vandalism-proof. And I need to find a way to leave my car plugged in for extended periods of time, unsupervised, without fearing that someone will steal stuff from it - e.g. the charging cable?) - If all the above are solved - I still need to use that car for extended trips (vacations, visiting parents in a different city). Those would still mean that I need to charge "on the road". Due to the first point, it'd still be a challenge to go 100% electric even if I had the "charging at home" part covered. Really, I think if we don't solve the "charging in gas stations" part, electric vehicle use is going to be inherently limited.

de_watcher 6y ago

> If you don't have a parking space, you probably don't have an EV Not true. And if every gas station has a fast charger then you don't need a parking space with a charger.