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I grew up in Germany and went to public schools there. I just recently became a homeowner in Seattle. I have no ties to the local schools here and would much pr

by verst 6y ago

I grew up in Germany and went to public schools there. I just recently became a homeowner in Seattle. I have no ties to the local schools here and would much prefer everyone got equal opportunities and education. I'd like to see people succeed in this society on merit, not privilege - this starts with education. Germany uses a decentralized system where the federal government and state government allocate budget to schools with some small additional contributions by local districts. Apparently 80% of the budget is spent on salaries. In 2016 the total education spending was 7100 Euros per student per year. This system seems to work quite well. P.S.: I was a fool for not taking advantage of free university in Germany.

LargoLasskhyfv 6y ago
While that was then, now it is trendy (with a sharp rise since about 2015/2016) to send the kids to private schools if one can afford it. Hilariously even by politicians who favor the Gesamtschule/Stadtteilschule/Ganztagsschule concept in public.
- verst 6y ago
  Perhaps that is a trend in big cities or among the elite, but do you have a source indicating this is generally true?
  - LargoLasskhyfv 6y ago
    It depends. From personal experience i only know a hand full. Then it further depends on what you mean by big city. What about any city which has social hotspots in the "Plattenbauten" social housing projects built since the 70ies? Where often the temporary housings for the refugees have been located, and then later on integrated into the already less than ideal situation in schools there. I feel like i have read hundreds of cases from all across the country confirming what i experience personally. Groups of naughty little assholes from early childhood to puberty, terrorizing and vandalizing anyone and everything. Not all of them, but many. This may look like I'd favor the AFD, or something similar. But I don't. Just watching and noticing the change in general, confirmed by the few people i personally interact with, in part heavily sobered up by what they experienced when engaging into voluntary support work for them, the feeling of entitlement some had, the rage when confronted with the not so rosy reality, and so on.
rayiner 6y ago
> Germany uses a decentralized system where the federal government and state government allocate budget to schools with some small additional contributions by local districts. Apparently 80% of the budget is spent on salaries. In 2016 the total education spending was 7100 Euros per student per year. This system seems to work quite well. This is not dissimilar to how the system works in the US. Here is the spending for my state: https://conduitstreet.mdcounties.org/2019/02/20/funding-per-pupil-charts-for-2019/ https://conduitstreet.mdcounties.org/2019/02/20/funding-per-... Depending on the county, 20-60% of the funding comes from federal and state levels, with lower income areas receiving more support from the federal and state government. Also, the spending in Baltimore, a very low income city where there was riots a few years ago after a police brutality incident, is double the 7,100 euros you mention above.

by verst 6y ago

LargoLasskhyfv 6y ago

While that was then, now it is trendy (with a sharp rise since about 2015/2016) to send the kids to private schools if one can afford it. Hilariously even by politicians who favor the Gesamtschule/Stadtteilschule/Ganztagsschule concept in public.

verst 6y ago
Perhaps that is a trend in big cities or among the elite, but do you have a source indicating this is generally true?
- LargoLasskhyfv 6y ago
  It depends. From personal experience i only know a hand full. Then it further depends on what you mean by big city. What about any city which has social hotspots in the "Plattenbauten" social housing projects built since the 70ies? Where often the temporary housings for the refugees have been located, and then later on integrated into the already less than ideal situation in schools there. I feel like i have read hundreds of cases from all across the country confirming what i experience personally. Groups of naughty little assholes from early childhood to puberty, terrorizing and vandalizing anyone and everything. Not all of them, but many. This may look like I'd favor the AFD, or something similar. But I don't. Just watching and noticing the change in general, confirmed by the few people i personally interact with, in part heavily sobered up by what they experienced when engaging into voluntary support work for them, the feeling of entitlement some had, the rage when confronted with the not so rosy reality, and so on.

rayiner 6y ago

> Germany uses a decentralized system where the federal government and state government allocate budget to schools with some small additional contributions by local districts. Apparently 80% of the budget is spent on salaries. In 2016 the total education spending was 7100 Euros per student per year. This system seems to work quite well. This is not dissimilar to how the system works in the US. Here is the spending for my state: https://conduitstreet.mdcounties.org/2019/02/20/funding-per-pupil-charts-for-2019/ https://conduitstreet.mdcounties.org/2019/02/20/funding-per-... Depending on the county, 20-60% of the funding comes from federal and state levels, with lower income areas receiving more support from the federal and state government. Also, the spending in Baltimore, a very low income city where there was riots a few years ago after a police brutality incident, is double the 7,100 euros you mention above.