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I once billed $majorAustralianBank about $70k for time spent debugging (and proving to their IT team) that an edge router in their internal network was a Cisco
by bigiain 6y ago
I once billed $majorAustralianBank about $70k for time spent debugging (and proving to their IT team) that an edge router in their internal network was a Cisco box that was running a specific (and well out of date) version of the OS that in default configuration was intentionally munging any STARTTLS commands that went through it, so all mail passing through was force downgraded to plain text across int internet (into their Microsoft Office hosted mail system).
Nobody involved at $bank even knew of the existence of this router, and they spent several weeks not believing they even owned that model of Cisco gear or that they had any Cisco gear that wasn't fully updated.
It was "fun times" debugging that and documenting/proving exactly what was breaking with no more access than sftp to a web server running non root privileged PHP.
(We may have gone fairly dark-grey hat and broken quite a few internal rules to achieve that... Then had to "parallel construct" our investigation (before I even knew that term) to explain to their tech people haw we'd identified the root cause.)
- jlgaddis 6y agoASA Version 8.3(3)? Or were they actually using the IOS Firewall on a router instead of a firewall? PIX and ASA appliances used to ship with "ESMTP inspection" enabled by default -- which would strip out the "STARTTLS" advertisement (replacing it with "X"s) from a server's response.
- joombaga 6y agoI'd never heard the term "parallel construct" before either, but I've definitely walked that grey line carefully when disclosing privilege escalation discovery methods. Can you say anymore? I'm curious what you came up with. For the benefit of others (from Wikipedia) > Parallel construction is a law enforcement process of building a parallel, or separate, evidentiary basis for a criminal investigation in order to conceal how an investigation actually began.