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How will this affect outlets like BBC, NPR, and others? They’re state funded, if not state controlled to a certain extent. Just listen to people’s attitudes tow

How will this affect outlets like BBC, NPR, and others? They’re state funded, if not state controlled to a certain extent. Just listen to people’s attitudes towards the BBC recently. Will they be prevented from taking out Facebook ads? I think I’d prefer that honestly, because I don’t want my taxpayer or TV License money buying Facebook ads...

ConsiderCrying 6y ago
Do BBC and NPR actually buy Facebook ads? Especially NPR, I feel like it's not exactly the type of organization that would like Facebook or want to do business with them.
- DFHippie 6y ago
  Or have the money to buy ads.
mc32 6y ago
Yeah it’s not clear. Granma, KCNA, Xinhua are probably clear, but deutsche welle, whatever friendly state... I’m guessing they’d be okay. I wanna know what they do about radio Yerevan.
- perl4ever 6y ago
  I'm not sure why it would be important to allow ads from state media even if generally considered benign. Why not just have a quiet period around the election? People seem to not be distinguishing between running targeted ads and allowing news to be transmitted. It doesn't seem like the latter requires allowing the former.
ardy42 6y ago
> How will this affect outlets like BBC, NPR, and others? They’re state funded, if not state controlled to a certain extent. IIRC, NPR and PBS are primarily funded through donations. Federal funding only makes up something like 10 or 15% of their budgets. IMHO, this is what "state-controlled" media looks like: https://www.scmp.com/news/china/policies-politics/article/1914136/chinas-top-party-mouthpieces-pledge-absolute-loyalty https://www.scmp.com/news/china/policies-politics/article/19... > Entertainment, social and international news should be edited in the “right direction”, just like domestic news, Chinese President Xi Jinping said on Friday as he told state media and tabloids to alike to uphold the Communist Party leadership. > Party-owned media should put political awareness first and let “positive propaganda” be the majority of the public voice, Xi told heads and veteran journalists from media outfits including People’s Daily, CCTV and Xinhua. > “Party-owned media must hold the family name of the party,” Xi said. “They must embody the party’s will, safeguard the party’s authority … their actions must be highly consistent with the party.”
east2west 6y ago
I don't know about BBC or NPR, but VOA and Radio Free Asia are much more borderline. A valid argument can be made that they are not really independent of US government.
- msla 6y ago
  It is against Federal law for the VOA to advertise to Americans, so I doubt it will be a problem. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith%E2%80%93Mundt_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith%E2%80%93Mundt_Act There was a Smith-Mundt Modernization Act of 2012, but I can't tell if that had any meaningful impact on whether the VOA can advertise to Americans. (I know Facebook is used worldwide. Can the entities which purchase ads say that their ads must never be shown to people of certain nationalities? Would that suffice in the face of a Federal law?) As for BBC vs NPR, the BBC is funded by what is essentially a tax, the license fee, whereas NPR is mostly funded through fees, grants, sponsorships, and contributions; in 2012, 10.9% of its funding came from Federal sources. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NPR https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NPR
perl4ever 6y ago
Al Jazeera?

ConsiderCrying 6y ago

Do BBC and NPR actually buy Facebook ads? Especially NPR, I feel like it's not exactly the type of organization that would like Facebook or want to do business with them.

DFHippie 6y ago
Or have the money to buy ads.

mc32 6y ago

Yeah it’s not clear. Granma, KCNA, Xinhua are probably clear, but deutsche welle, whatever friendly state... I’m guessing they’d be okay. I wanna know what they do about radio Yerevan.

perl4ever 6y ago
I'm not sure why it would be important to allow ads from state media even if generally considered benign. Why not just have a quiet period around the election? People seem to not be distinguishing between running targeted ads and allowing news to be transmitted. It doesn't seem like the latter requires allowing the former.

ardy42 6y ago

> How will this affect outlets like BBC, NPR, and others? They’re state funded, if not state controlled to a certain extent. IIRC, NPR and PBS are primarily funded through donations. Federal funding only makes up something like 10 or 15% of their budgets. IMHO, this is what "state-controlled" media looks like: https://www.scmp.com/news/china/policies-politics/article/1914136/chinas-top-party-mouthpieces-pledge-absolute-loyalty https://www.scmp.com/news/china/policies-politics/article/19... > Entertainment, social and international news should be edited in the “right direction”, just like domestic news, Chinese President Xi Jinping said on Friday as he told state media and tabloids to alike to uphold the Communist Party leadership. > Party-owned media should put political awareness first and let “positive propaganda” be the majority of the public voice, Xi told heads and veteran journalists from media outfits including People’s Daily, CCTV and Xinhua. > “Party-owned media must hold the family name of the party,” Xi said. “They must embody the party’s will, safeguard the party’s authority … their actions must be highly consistent with the party.”

east2west 6y ago

I don't know about BBC or NPR, but VOA and Radio Free Asia are much more borderline. A valid argument can be made that they are not really independent of US government.

msla 6y ago
It is against Federal law for the VOA to advertise to Americans, so I doubt it will be a problem. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith%E2%80%93Mundt_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith%E2%80%93Mundt_Act There was a Smith-Mundt Modernization Act of 2012, but I can't tell if that had any meaningful impact on whether the VOA can advertise to Americans. (I know Facebook is used worldwide. Can the entities which purchase ads say that their ads must never be shown to people of certain nationalities? Would that suffice in the face of a Federal law?) As for BBC vs NPR, the BBC is funded by what is essentially a tax, the license fee, whereas NPR is mostly funded through fees, grants, sponsorships, and contributions; in 2012, 10.9% of its funding came from Federal sources. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NPR https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NPR

perl4ever 6y ago

Al Jazeera?