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all the verification of HCQ outside of this retracted study showed that it either didn't help or actively harmed False. Not all. There's a reason why people we

all the verification of HCQ outside of this retracted study showed that it either didn't help or actively harmed False. Not all. There's a reason why people were hopeful. https://youtu.be/5i4BpTcBdrc?t=415 https://youtu.be/5i4BpTcBdrc?t=415 There are many more like this.

DanBC 6y ago
On one side we have peer reviewed, published, studies showing it doesn't work and causes harm when used to treat Covid-19, and on the other side we have youtube videos talking about tweets from some bloke calling himself MD but who isn't working as a doctor, talking about a "study" performed in India that wasn't actually a study -- they were not monitoring the impact on the people taking it; they didn't attempt a control group; we have no idea if the people who declined it were high risk or not; etc etc.
- jansan 6y ago
  > On one side we have peer reviewed, published, studies I don't think you fully caught the irony of what you just wrote.
- lbeltrame 6y ago
  > On one side we have peer reviewed, published, studies showing it doesn't work and causes harm I understand the "doesn't work" at least when given late during the course of the disease (no idea when early, that's why we have RCTs to find out, otherwise it would be already done and deal), but causes harm? Aside the retracted study, even the deaths in the high dosage arm in the Brazil study, which prompted unmasking and lowered dosage, were defined "a statistically insignificant trend" (death is always serious, of course, but those words need to be taken into account). Unless by "causes harm" you mean for availability for treatment of other diseases, of course.
- non-entity 6y ago
  > talking about tweets from some bloke calling himself MD but who isn't working as a doctor, talking about a "study" performed in India that wasn't actually a study A bit unrelated, but during the peak, my parents shared a video kn Facebook that I found quite surprising. A doctor, with a legitimate medical degree and patients, made a meme level conspiracy video about how since a patent existed on a vaccine for a previous coronavirus, it would also treat COVID-19, but somehow tied the patent owner to Bill Gated and into a conspiracy by Gates to depopulate the world. I nornally consider doctors pretty intelligent people, but jesus christ.

DanBC 6y ago

On one side we have peer reviewed, published, studies showing it doesn't work and causes harm when used to treat Covid-19, and on the other side we have youtube videos talking about tweets from some bloke calling himself MD but who isn't working as a doctor, talking about a "study" performed in India that wasn't actually a study -- they were not monitoring the impact on the people taking it; they didn't attempt a control group; we have no idea if the people who declined it were high risk or not; etc etc.

jansan 6y ago
> On one side we have peer reviewed, published, studies I don't think you fully caught the irony of what you just wrote.
lbeltrame 6y ago
> On one side we have peer reviewed, published, studies showing it doesn't work and causes harm I understand the "doesn't work" at least when given late during the course of the disease (no idea when early, that's why we have RCTs to find out, otherwise it would be already done and deal), but causes harm? Aside the retracted study, even the deaths in the high dosage arm in the Brazil study, which prompted unmasking and lowered dosage, were defined "a statistically insignificant trend" (death is always serious, of course, but those words need to be taken into account). Unless by "causes harm" you mean for availability for treatment of other diseases, of course.
non-entity 6y ago
> talking about tweets from some bloke calling himself MD but who isn't working as a doctor, talking about a "study" performed in India that wasn't actually a study A bit unrelated, but during the peak, my parents shared a video kn Facebook that I found quite surprising. A doctor, with a legitimate medical degree and patients, made a meme level conspiracy video about how since a patent existed on a vaccine for a previous coronavirus, it would also treat COVID-19, but somehow tied the patent owner to Bill Gated and into a conspiracy by Gates to depopulate the world. I nornally consider doctors pretty intelligent people, but jesus christ.