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When arguing about immigrants and unemployment I always wondered why people get so upset over it. If the immigrant is even able to collect unemployment that mea

When arguing about immigrants and unemployment I always wondered why people get so upset over it. If the immigrant is even able to collect unemployment that means they paid for it. So they're literally just getting the money back that they paid into it. Probably considerably less, even! So why should anyone care that they're collecting a benefit that they paid for? I don't get it.

codeddesign 6y ago
Do people get upset over legal immigrants? (Such as through marriage or relative) As far as I am aware it’s mainly about illegal immigration. However, if you are on a work visa, I believe the law states the visa is revoked if you lose your job with the employer.
codeddesign 6y ago
Unfortunately all media is biased, with most primarily taking a far left stance. This is likely just due to $$$ as we live in a capitalist society. If I owned a news station the questions I would ask is “what demographic is the most profitable to us?” and “what content brings in the most money?”
- caseyohara 6y ago
  You are gravely mistaken if you think news stations slant "far left".
  - HeroOfAges 6y ago
    Are you referring to local news stations or national networks? I've also suspected CNN and MSNBC have a bias toward the "far left". What would you, caseyohara, accept as proof of left-leaning bias from CNN or MSNBC?
    - bobwaycott 6y ago
      There is a significant difference between being left-leaning, and being far-left.
      - codeddesign 6y ago
        You are right on this point. However, everything is so politicized that you aren’t allowed to be leaning in any direction. You are force to choose..which is ridiculous. To give an example, why is it unacceptable to many on HN to like policies from both Obama and Trump? Having been on here for a while, you will get applauded for 1 and spit at for the other.
    - notahacker 6y ago
      Typically, a source with a bias towards the "far left" might be inclined to agitate for Marxist revolution or anarcho-syndicalism and consider European social democrats to be right wing sellouts because they haven't shown any inclination to abolish private property or even punitively tax the rich. Do you have any evidence of this bias in their news coverage?
    - codeddesign 6y ago
      Just to clarify, I was referring to nationwide/major stations. I don’t have any comment on local. I would imagine the bias (or non) would be based upon that social demographic area ( southern Calif is more left compared to South Dakota which is more right)
rayiner 6y ago
Unemployment doesn't work like that. As long as you've paid something in, you can get paid out the same as anyone else. So you could have a situation where non-immigrants are paying into the system more than they get out, while immigrants are getting paid more than they paid in.

codeddesign 6y ago

Do people get upset over legal immigrants? (Such as through marriage or relative) As far as I am aware it’s mainly about illegal immigration. However, if you are on a work visa, I believe the law states the visa is revoked if you lose your job with the employer.

codeddesign 6y ago

Unfortunately all media is biased, with most primarily taking a far left stance. This is likely just due to $$$ as we live in a capitalist society. If I owned a news station the questions I would ask is “what demographic is the most profitable to us?” and “what content brings in the most money?”

caseyohara 6y ago
You are gravely mistaken if you think news stations slant "far left".
- HeroOfAges 6y ago
  Are you referring to local news stations or national networks? I've also suspected CNN and MSNBC have a bias toward the "far left". What would you, caseyohara, accept as proof of left-leaning bias from CNN or MSNBC?
  - bobwaycott 6y ago
    There is a significant difference between being left-leaning, and being far-left.
    - codeddesign 6y ago
      You are right on this point. However, everything is so politicized that you aren’t allowed to be leaning in any direction. You are force to choose..which is ridiculous. To give an example, why is it unacceptable to many on HN to like policies from both Obama and Trump? Having been on here for a while, you will get applauded for 1 and spit at for the other.
  - notahacker 6y ago
    Typically, a source with a bias towards the "far left" might be inclined to agitate for Marxist revolution or anarcho-syndicalism and consider European social democrats to be right wing sellouts because they haven't shown any inclination to abolish private property or even punitively tax the rich. Do you have any evidence of this bias in their news coverage?
  - codeddesign 6y ago
    Just to clarify, I was referring to nationwide/major stations. I don’t have any comment on local. I would imagine the bias (or non) would be based upon that social demographic area ( southern Calif is more left compared to South Dakota which is more right)

rayiner 6y ago

Unemployment doesn't work like that. As long as you've paid something in, you can get paid out the same as anyone else. So you could have a situation where non-immigrants are paying into the system more than they get out, while immigrants are getting paid more than they paid in.