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Typically police riot helmets have exactly that (a big number) on the back of them so they can identify each other in the chaos. It has since come out that the

by sbarre 6y ago

Typically police riot helmets have exactly that (a big number) on the back of them so they can identify each other in the chaos. It has since come out that these are Bureau of Prisons employees, and the head of the BOP said this was "not intentional" and that the "point was taken" about the problem of them being unidentified. Whether through malice or incompetence, it's still kinda bullshit tho.

ChristianBundy 6y ago
> "not intentional" I'm guessing that this means "this is how we've always done it but we've never faced accountability before". The BOP was founded in 1930, I wonder how long they've been pulling this 'no name, no badge' thing under the radar.
- ahi 6y ago
  In fairness, they have no business being deployed outside of a prison anyway. Their lack of uniforms reflect their lack of training and jurisdiction for the task assigned. They might as well be Capitol hill cafeteria workers. The only additional qualification the BoP has is their experience cracking heads.
- freeone3000 6y ago
  Almost certainly since inception. They operate solely in prisons, as muscle, so any abuse charges are going to fall on deaf ears even if identified fully.
ardy42 6y ago
> Typically police riot helmets have exactly that (a big number) on the back of them so they can identify each other in the chaos. That's far from universal. I did some googling: Helmet number: * DC Police: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/after-night-significant-damage-d-c-mayor-bowser-imposes-earlier-n1221126 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/after-night-s... * San Francisco police: https://warriorpublications.wordpress.com/2012/10/07/san-francisco-report-from-anti-columbus-march-1062012/ https://warriorpublications.wordpress.com/2012/10/07/san-fra... * Denver Police: https://www.denverpost.com/2016/07/14/poll-riot-gear-for-police-at-protests/ https://www.denverpost.com/2016/07/14/poll-riot-gear-for-pol... No number: * Boston Police/MA State Police: https://psmag.com/social-justice/policing-a-class-society https://psmag.com/social-justice/policing-a-class-society * Minnesota State Patrol: https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/minneapolis-riots-ferguson-1.5590678 https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/minneapolis-riots-ferguson-1.5... * Chicago Police: https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/chicago-police-officers-in-full-riot-gear-stand-guard-news-photo/1861464 https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/chicago-police... One issue I have is that even when there are ID numbers on the uniforms, they're too small. The only ones above that I thought were adequately large were on the San Francisco police uniforms. The number should be large enough to be read off an active/moving officer's uniform from a photograph taken some distance away (like 30-50 feet).

by sbarre 6y ago

ChristianBundy 6y ago

> "not intentional" I'm guessing that this means "this is how we've always done it but we've never faced accountability before". The BOP was founded in 1930, I wonder how long they've been pulling this 'no name, no badge' thing under the radar.

ahi 6y ago
In fairness, they have no business being deployed outside of a prison anyway. Their lack of uniforms reflect their lack of training and jurisdiction for the task assigned. They might as well be Capitol hill cafeteria workers. The only additional qualification the BoP has is their experience cracking heads.
freeone3000 6y ago
Almost certainly since inception. They operate solely in prisons, as muscle, so any abuse charges are going to fall on deaf ears even if identified fully.

ardy42 6y ago

> Typically police riot helmets have exactly that (a big number) on the back of them so they can identify each other in the chaos. That's far from universal. I did some googling: Helmet number: * DC Police: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/after-night-significant-damage-d-c-mayor-bowser-imposes-earlier-n1221126 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/after-night-s... * San Francisco police: https://warriorpublications.wordpress.com/2012/10/07/san-francisco-report-from-anti-columbus-march-1062012/ https://warriorpublications.wordpress.com/2012/10/07/san-fra... * Denver Police: https://www.denverpost.com/2016/07/14/poll-riot-gear-for-police-at-protests/ https://www.denverpost.com/2016/07/14/poll-riot-gear-for-pol... No number: * Boston Police/MA State Police: https://psmag.com/social-justice/policing-a-class-society https://psmag.com/social-justice/policing-a-class-society * Minnesota State Patrol: https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/minneapolis-riots-ferguson-1.5590678 https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/minneapolis-riots-ferguson-1.5... * Chicago Police: https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/chicago-police-officers-in-full-riot-gear-stand-guard-news-photo/1861464 https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/chicago-police... One issue I have is that even when there are ID numbers on the uniforms, they're too small. The only ones above that I thought were adequately large were on the San Francisco police uniforms. The number should be large enough to be read off an active/moving officer's uniform from a photograph taken some distance away (like 30-50 feet).