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The violence was not out of control last night. Case in point the video above showing hundreds of police officers surrounding peaceful protesters. I am offend

The violence was not out of control last night. Case in point the video above showing hundreds of police officers surrounding peaceful protesters. I am offended by the massive waste of resources. Case in point news helicopters not filming looting (as they would rather do) . The only thing left to film that night was the true protest. Made so so clear in the video above. The abuse of power if you can't see it you're blind. This proves the curfew was ordered under false pretenses. And demonstrates a complete lack of judgement and common sense by law enforcement.

strbean 6y ago
I mean, I'm very much in support of the protestors, but... They can't exactly institute a curfew after things get out of control. And they have gotten out of control across the country in the previous nights.
kyleee 6y ago
No doubt there were a lot of good faith / peaceful protests that were shut down and hindered, but there has also been a lot of looting. Here are couple good long form videos showing some of the looting in and around Santa Monica on a couple of the days: https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=vr3LrRUfJsY https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=vr3LrRUfJsY https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=PbxTqyW8yI0 https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=PbxTqyW8yI0
- basch 6y ago
  You don't just get to ban good behavior to stop bad behavior. The presence of illegal looting does not take away constitutional rights. If it did, the government would have incentive to incite riots and looting to force the breakup of peaceful protest. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strict_scrutiny https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strict_scrutiny
  - kyleee 6y ago
    I agree to a point, but I do think depending on the scale of the lawlessness that temporary measures such as a curfew can be reasonable in order to avoid large scale destruction and violence
meragrin_ 6y ago
Perhaps the violence was not out of control because the police were better enabled by the curfew in previous days and apprehended/scared off most of the troublemakers? The rioters and looters proved the curfew was necessary. The video seems like it is proof the police are more than willing to treat people with respect if they themselves are not being violent or enabling of those who are being violent.
djsumdog 6y ago
In Chicago, they were looting. They were burning things. They set over 80 fires and killed 20 people over the weekend. Not a single one of those fatalities was caused by a police officer. No one wants the world you're asking for: https://battlepenguin.com/politics/war-is-hell/ https://battlepenguin.com/politics/war-is-hell/

strbean 6y ago

I mean, I'm very much in support of the protestors, but... They can't exactly institute a curfew after things get out of control. And they have gotten out of control across the country in the previous nights.

kyleee 6y ago

No doubt there were a lot of good faith / peaceful protests that were shut down and hindered, but there has also been a lot of looting. Here are couple good long form videos showing some of the looting in and around Santa Monica on a couple of the days: https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=vr3LrRUfJsY https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=vr3LrRUfJsY https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=PbxTqyW8yI0 https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=PbxTqyW8yI0

basch 6y ago
You don't just get to ban good behavior to stop bad behavior. The presence of illegal looting does not take away constitutional rights. If it did, the government would have incentive to incite riots and looting to force the breakup of peaceful protest. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strict_scrutiny https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strict_scrutiny
- kyleee 6y ago
  I agree to a point, but I do think depending on the scale of the lawlessness that temporary measures such as a curfew can be reasonable in order to avoid large scale destruction and violence

meragrin_ 6y ago

Perhaps the violence was not out of control because the police were better enabled by the curfew in previous days and apprehended/scared off most of the troublemakers? The rioters and looters proved the curfew was necessary. The video seems like it is proof the police are more than willing to treat people with respect if they themselves are not being violent or enabling of those who are being violent.

djsumdog 6y ago

In Chicago, they were looting. They were burning things. They set over 80 fires and killed 20 people over the weekend. Not a single one of those fatalities was caused by a police officer. No one wants the world you're asking for: https://battlepenguin.com/politics/war-is-hell/ https://battlepenguin.com/politics/war-is-hell/