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> Github projects, OSS contributions, and StackOverflow questions, are imperfect measurements and can be inaccessible to a large number of developers. I fundam

by dvt 6y ago

> Github projects, OSS contributions, and StackOverflow questions, are imperfect measurements and can be inaccessible to a large number of developers. I fundamentally reject this premise and your arguments are orthogonal (GitHub being banned in like Syria and most OSS projects being in English is just flimsy hand-waving).

detaro 6y ago
How do you intend to deal with developers that have little to no Github activity?
- dvt 6y ago
  Take-homes, other OSS contributions, StackOverflow activity... GitHub isn't the only code outlet in the world. If I'd hire a writer, I'd like to see writing samples. If I hire a coder, I want to see coding samples.
  - devalgo 6y ago
    Excuse me sir, those writing samples are irrelevant. Could easily be plagiarized. I prefer to test my writers on arcane grammar in the languages they supposedly speak in high pressure situations.
    - karatestomp 6y ago
      "Well these novels all look fine, Mr. Stephen King, but you see there are just so many fakers out there and even though you can talk very well about the process of writing a book in a way that only someone who either actually did know how to write or who was so wonderfully skilled at faking it that they'd be able to make more money applying that skill directly to a job that called for it (have you met our CEO, incidentally?), but oh my, yes, there are so many fakers, yes I'm sure there are a lot, it must be that our bad hires have been fakers who tricked us and not that environment, process, team, and management quality significantly affect people's performance in various ways and that we're badly deficient in some of those areas—anyway, point is, next we're going to quiz you on obscure citation format details across three different citation styles, have you sentence-diagram and label all the parts of speech of every word in the first chapter of Moby Dick (should only take you 5 minutes or we'll start obviously betraying that we think you're an idiot), and then write out for us the subjunctive mood conjugation of a few irregular French verbs." "Uh, will I be doing much of that on the job?" "Oh god no. Where do you think you are? This is Buzzfeed. You'll be hammering together barely-coherent prose that's just shy of stolen and publishing it as fast as possible." ^ your average programming interview with whiteboard grilling.
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by dvt 6y ago

detaro 6y ago

How do you intend to deal with developers that have little to no Github activity?

dvt 6y ago
Take-homes, other OSS contributions, StackOverflow activity... GitHub isn't the only code outlet in the world. If I'd hire a writer, I'd like to see writing samples. If I hire a coder, I want to see coding samples.
- devalgo 6y ago
  Excuse me sir, those writing samples are irrelevant. Could easily be plagiarized. I prefer to test my writers on arcane grammar in the languages they supposedly speak in high pressure situations.
  - karatestomp 6y ago
    "Well these novels all look fine, Mr. Stephen King, but you see there are just so many fakers out there and even though you can talk very well about the process of writing a book in a way that only someone who either actually did know how to write or who was so wonderfully skilled at faking it that they'd be able to make more money applying that skill directly to a job that called for it (have you met our CEO, incidentally?), but oh my, yes, there are so many fakers, yes I'm sure there are a lot, it must be that our bad hires have been fakers who tricked us and not that environment, process, team, and management quality significantly affect people's performance in various ways and that we're badly deficient in some of those areas—anyway, point is, next we're going to quiz you on obscure citation format details across three different citation styles, have you sentence-diagram and label all the parts of speech of every word in the first chapter of Moby Dick (should only take you 5 minutes or we'll start obviously betraying that we think you're an idiot), and then write out for us the subjunctive mood conjugation of a few irregular French verbs." "Uh, will I be doing much of that on the job?" "Oh god no. Where do you think you are? This is Buzzfeed. You'll be hammering together barely-coherent prose that's just shy of stolen and publishing it as fast as possible." ^ your average programming interview with whiteboard grilling.
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