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We shut down fairly hard and fairly early in Denmark. Our neighbour Sweden didn’t shut down at all. Their economy suffered roughly the same as ours, but the num

by moksly 6y ago

We shut down fairly hard and fairly early in Denmark. Our neighbour Sweden didn’t shut down at all. Their economy suffered roughly the same as ours, but the number of deaths per 100,000 population is 43.9 and ours is 10. We’re pretty much reopening everything that isn’t big concentrated gatherings or night-clubs. Even things like Zoos are opening. Our border to Germany and Norway is also semi-open now, but remains closed toward Sweden for obvious reasons.

madspindel 6y ago
We did shut down in Sweden. It's a myth that needs to be debunked. I (and many others) have been working from home for several months now. All events (like sports, cinemas) have been postponed or canceled. Most people in larger cities are ordering groceries and stuffs online. Sweden is a very digital, even cashless society. Sure, it's open in some ways but many stores are shutting down because everything have went digital.
- BlackNitrogen 6y ago
  The net effect was that the death rate was vastly higher in Sweden than their northern Scandinavian neighbors. Over 4000 deaths more based on population size. Not having more aggressive stay at home policies doomed thousands more people to die than were likely if you had followed policies of your neighbors. Sweden has now joined the ranks of the worst performing countries in Europe based on death rate. The UK, France, Spain, and Sweden. Here's the opportunity Sweden missed: The disease had an early outbreak in those other countries, it was already raging before the countries shutdown (Spain and Italy were overwhelmed). But as we saw in Finland, Norway etc, if it wasn't raging, by shutting down you could tremendously reduce the infections. I know Sweden tried to protect elderly in sr citizen homes as we call them in the US, but you failed. People could still go out to bars and restaurants, your economy was somewhat more functional that other countries, at the cost of currently 3-4k extra deaths. It's a terrible situation, but in my opinion the wrong one.
- lostlogin 6y ago
  Thank you for this. We’re the shutdowns and working from home government mandated, or due to people just doing it?
m4rtink 6y ago
Similar situation here in Czech Republic, just in the last few days most foreign travel restrictions were lifted for European Countries - but UK & Sweden are firmly red on the map the government has published, traveling there is not advised and you would have to go to a 14 day quarantine and get tested after returning from there.

by moksly 6y ago

madspindel 6y ago

We did shut down in Sweden. It's a myth that needs to be debunked. I (and many others) have been working from home for several months now. All events (like sports, cinemas) have been postponed or canceled. Most people in larger cities are ordering groceries and stuffs online. Sweden is a very digital, even cashless society. Sure, it's open in some ways but many stores are shutting down because everything have went digital.

BlackNitrogen 6y ago
The net effect was that the death rate was vastly higher in Sweden than their northern Scandinavian neighbors. Over 4000 deaths more based on population size. Not having more aggressive stay at home policies doomed thousands more people to die than were likely if you had followed policies of your neighbors. Sweden has now joined the ranks of the worst performing countries in Europe based on death rate. The UK, France, Spain, and Sweden. Here's the opportunity Sweden missed: The disease had an early outbreak in those other countries, it was already raging before the countries shutdown (Spain and Italy were overwhelmed). But as we saw in Finland, Norway etc, if it wasn't raging, by shutting down you could tremendously reduce the infections. I know Sweden tried to protect elderly in sr citizen homes as we call them in the US, but you failed. People could still go out to bars and restaurants, your economy was somewhat more functional that other countries, at the cost of currently 3-4k extra deaths. It's a terrible situation, but in my opinion the wrong one.
lostlogin 6y ago
Thank you for this. We’re the shutdowns and working from home government mandated, or due to people just doing it?

m4rtink 6y ago

Similar situation here in Czech Republic, just in the last few days most foreign travel restrictions were lifted for European Countries - but UK & Sweden are firmly red on the map the government has published, traveling there is not advised and you would have to go to a 14 day quarantine and get tested after returning from there.