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It may be self-serving but it may also be targeted to other Facebook employees and recruits or to the general FB-using public to let folks know how dire and com

It may be self-serving but it may also be targeted to other Facebook employees and recruits or to the general FB-using public to let folks know how dire and complete their complicity with things is. As someone who is repeatedly contacted by FAANG recruiters, I can tell you there are two of them I keep asking hard questions about company culture and role in society. They stop responding, then a different recruiter reaches out a few months later. I imagine you can guess which two.

macspoofing 6y ago
>It may be self-serving but it may also be targeted to other Facebook employees and recruits or to the general FB-using public to let folks know how dire and complete their complicity with things is. Fair enough and I do consider his action to be a moral stance that took courage to make. And I certainly respect your decision to not work for these companies. Having said that, I think you are way overstating how bad FB or Twitter or Google is (I wasn't sure which two companies you were talking about). And I say that because I look at the full picture of the economy that has, for example, timeshare companies, payday lenders, banks and credit card companies, casinos, alcohol and beer companies, pharmaceuticals (especially with opiates). Products from those companies can have terrible real-world consequences on people that may take decades to rectify, and then when I look at Facebook and the negative things they bring .. Facebook doesn't even rank. I'm sure FB has problems that they need to work on fixing but the hyperbole around them is so outrageously disproportionate, it feels like gaslighting.
- cestith 6y ago
  If you think abiding fascism can't have real-world, long term consequences please review your history. The same if you think abuse of having everyone's private data is no big deal. The two companies, by the way, are Facebook and Amazon. Unfortunately I'm in a position that I use both, but I don't intend to work for either as things currently stand. I'd probably go to Amazon before Facebook, but I have concerns about their treatment of warehouse staff and entering markets they've built around other sellers and undercutting them.

macspoofing 6y ago

>It may be self-serving but it may also be targeted to other Facebook employees and recruits or to the general FB-using public to let folks know how dire and complete their complicity with things is. Fair enough and I do consider his action to be a moral stance that took courage to make. And I certainly respect your decision to not work for these companies. Having said that, I think you are way overstating how bad FB or Twitter or Google is (I wasn't sure which two companies you were talking about). And I say that because I look at the full picture of the economy that has, for example, timeshare companies, payday lenders, banks and credit card companies, casinos, alcohol and beer companies, pharmaceuticals (especially with opiates). Products from those companies can have terrible real-world consequences on people that may take decades to rectify, and then when I look at Facebook and the negative things they bring .. Facebook doesn't even rank. I'm sure FB has problems that they need to work on fixing but the hyperbole around them is so outrageously disproportionate, it feels like gaslighting.

cestith 6y ago
If you think abiding fascism can't have real-world, long term consequences please review your history. The same if you think abuse of having everyone's private data is no big deal. The two companies, by the way, are Facebook and Amazon. Unfortunately I'm in a position that I use both, but I don't intend to work for either as things currently stand. I'd probably go to Amazon before Facebook, but I have concerns about their treatment of warehouse staff and entering markets they've built around other sellers and undercutting them.