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Anybody working for Facebook is knowingly and willingly helping promote fascism. These people have some of the best job options out there, and they're actively

Anybody working for Facebook is knowingly and willingly helping promote fascism. These people have some of the best job options out there, and they're actively choosing to work for a company that's actively harmful to society.

sparkling 6y ago
Facebook is promoting "facism" for not deleting Trump? lol
- M2Ys4U 6y ago
  Facebook was also complicit in the genocide of the Rohingya minority in Myanmar
- yogthos 6y ago
  Might want to read up on some of Facebook history in promoting extremist ideology because it's good business. Here are a couple of links to get you started https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebook-knows-it-encourages-division-top-executives-nixed-solutions-11590507499 https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebook-knows-it-encourages-di... https://www.start.umd.edu/pubs/START_PIRUS_UseOfSocialMediaByUSExtremists_ResearchBrief_July2018.pdf https://www.start.umd.edu/pubs/START_PIRUS_UseOfSocialMediaB...
A4ET8a8uTh0 6y ago
Uhh. I dislike FB as much as next poster here, but I cannot explicitly state that FB does not benefit society. In a sense, it might be closer to alchohol. It might be ok in small doses, but too much of it will mess you up. Also, I would hesitate using term 'fascism' on US oriented forum. As arguments go, the label has become largely meaningless.
- yogthos 6y ago
  There is literal research showing that Facebook is harmful to mental health https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/sex-murder-and-the-meaning-life/201404/7-ways-facebook-is-bad-your-mental-health https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/sex-murder-and-the-m... Facebook also has a long history of meddling in elections and actively promoting far right groups. Meanwhile, fascism is absolutely not a meaningless label, and it's literally what's happening in US right now. Trump’s own former defense secretary just compared him to the nazis https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/n7wn7m/welp-trumps-own-former-defense-secretary-just-compared-him-to-the-nazis-so-that-happened https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/n7wn7m/welp-trumps-own-fo... When a company builds its whole business model on promoting extremist ideology and mass surveillance, then it's a pretty strong indication that it does not in fact benefit society.
  - A4ET8a8uTh0 6y ago
    My comparison holds. Alcohol is bad for you too with extensive research confirming that. As for fascism, you may be right in principle, but in practice the word has become associated with 'things I do not like'. Not completely unlike, say, anti-semitism ( though that one is holding up a lot better in comparison ). All I am saying is, think of your audience.
    - yogthos 6y ago
      Your comparison is the definition of a false equivalence fallacy. And words have meaning, and the fact that many people in US don't understand what the fascism means is not a reason to stop using the term. This simply shows the need for education.
      - A4ET8a8uTh0 6y ago
        Umm. Language is not an immutable construct. It evolves. I can agree that words have meaning that has certain amount of life in it. For more recent example, think of how word gay changed. We use words to communicate. If you use words that are misunderstood by your potential audience, is it their fault for having different internal definition of a word or yours. You are trying to traslate your world into theirs. edit: phrasing of gay word example
        yogthos 6y ago
        Language is not a immutable, however the problem in US is precisely that people don't understand what fascism is. You have literal fascist organizations, you have white supremacy, you have tight coupling between the government and the military industrial complex, and so on. Everybody else in the world understands this, and it's time for people in US to start understanding what's happening in their country.
        A4ET8a8uTh0 6y ago
        Having gone through versions of this conversation before, I can say that it is a lot easier to attempt to relate to something audience already understands instead of trying to spend valuable time fighting over the definition of fascism and whether it is left wing or right wing ideology ( never fails ). I am not really disagreeing with you, but you are trying to fight against decades of fascist label being used as a catch all phrase. I believe in dealing with things as they are.

sparkling 6y ago

Facebook is promoting "facism" for not deleting Trump? lol

M2Ys4U 6y ago
Facebook was also complicit in the genocide of the Rohingya minority in Myanmar
yogthos 6y ago
Might want to read up on some of Facebook history in promoting extremist ideology because it's good business. Here are a couple of links to get you started https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebook-knows-it-encourages-division-top-executives-nixed-solutions-11590507499 https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebook-knows-it-encourages-di... https://www.start.umd.edu/pubs/START_PIRUS_UseOfSocialMediaByUSExtremists_ResearchBrief_July2018.pdf https://www.start.umd.edu/pubs/START_PIRUS_UseOfSocialMediaB...

A4ET8a8uTh0 6y ago

Uhh. I dislike FB as much as next poster here, but I cannot explicitly state that FB does not benefit society. In a sense, it might be closer to alchohol. It might be ok in small doses, but too much of it will mess you up. Also, I would hesitate using term 'fascism' on US oriented forum. As arguments go, the label has become largely meaningless.

yogthos 6y ago
There is literal research showing that Facebook is harmful to mental health https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/sex-murder-and-the-meaning-life/201404/7-ways-facebook-is-bad-your-mental-health https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/sex-murder-and-the-m... Facebook also has a long history of meddling in elections and actively promoting far right groups. Meanwhile, fascism is absolutely not a meaningless label, and it's literally what's happening in US right now. Trump’s own former defense secretary just compared him to the nazis https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/n7wn7m/welp-trumps-own-former-defense-secretary-just-compared-him-to-the-nazis-so-that-happened https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/n7wn7m/welp-trumps-own-fo... When a company builds its whole business model on promoting extremist ideology and mass surveillance, then it's a pretty strong indication that it does not in fact benefit society.
- A4ET8a8uTh0 6y ago
  My comparison holds. Alcohol is bad for you too with extensive research confirming that. As for fascism, you may be right in principle, but in practice the word has become associated with 'things I do not like'. Not completely unlike, say, anti-semitism ( though that one is holding up a lot better in comparison ). All I am saying is, think of your audience.
  - yogthos 6y ago
    Your comparison is the definition of a false equivalence fallacy. And words have meaning, and the fact that many people in US don't understand what the fascism means is not a reason to stop using the term. This simply shows the need for education.
    - A4ET8a8uTh0 6y ago
      Umm. Language is not an immutable construct. It evolves. I can agree that words have meaning that has certain amount of life in it. For more recent example, think of how word gay changed. We use words to communicate. If you use words that are misunderstood by your potential audience, is it their fault for having different internal definition of a word or yours. You are trying to traslate your world into theirs. edit: phrasing of gay word example
      - yogthos 6y ago
        Language is not a immutable, however the problem in US is precisely that people don't understand what fascism is. You have literal fascist organizations, you have white supremacy, you have tight coupling between the government and the military industrial complex, and so on. Everybody else in the world understands this, and it's time for people in US to start understanding what's happening in their country.
        A4ET8a8uTh0 6y ago
        Having gone through versions of this conversation before, I can say that it is a lot easier to attempt to relate to something audience already understands instead of trying to spend valuable time fighting over the definition of fascism and whether it is left wing or right wing ideology ( never fails ). I am not really disagreeing with you, but you are trying to fight against decades of fascist label being used as a catch all phrase. I believe in dealing with things as they are.