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Voting by party line should be removed from ballots. This actually encourages partisanship versus having voters lookup and understand the candidates they are vo

Voting by party line should be removed from ballots. This actually encourages partisanship versus having voters lookup and understand the candidates they are voting for.

pstuart 6y ago
Breaking up the 2 party duopoly would be good too. I have no idea how.
- prklmn 6y ago
  Ranked choice voting would be a good start.
  - nocoolnametom 6y ago
    RCV is a fantastic idea, but it is very difficult to get it installed on a large scale. Only one state has tried (Maine) but their state Constitution as currently worded seems to disallow it (as their Supreme Court has warned them). So for many states you'd first have to amend the Constitution to allow for RCV (or go for broke and try to get RCV enshrined in your Constitution) and then hope that those who benefited from the previous First-Past-the-Post systems will act against their interest to implement it by law or will refrain from enacting laws to overturn a citizen's referendum (which is my home state of Utah's preferred way of invalidating all citizen referendum). That said, while it's not a perfect solution it leans so heavily towards resolving many existing issues that I've long decided that if any politician publicly supports it as part of their campaign they'll have my vote.
- klyrs 6y ago
  Progressive Democrats and Never Trump Republicans need to vacate their respective parties. No idea how you and I could effect that change though -- awkward thing about "democracy", we only get the choices presented to us by those in power.
  - pstuart 6y ago
    My vote is held hostage by the Democratic party. I'm reluctant to expound upon that because that will invite a partisan pile-on and I've had enough of that here.
  - rsynnott 6y ago
    The US electoral system (or at least the common one; one or two states have flirted with modernising it) makes more than two parties unviable. In general countries without proportional representation or similar are two party systems (or occasionally 2.5 party systems like the UK, for historical reasons), countries with PR are multiparty.
    - klyrs 6y ago
      Yeah that would be a great start. Sorry state of affairs in Canada and the US is that even when politicians run on a platform of election reform, they change their tune because the system worked for them. The excuse I hear most often is some form of the electorate being too stupid to navigate such a complicated system.
      - rsynnott 6y ago
        The _fairest_ PR systems actually are very complicated, which is why they're rarely used in practice. Systems like PR-STV, though, are both a lot fairer than first past the post, and relatively understandable (in countries that use them, most people understand the basic mechanics, and _everyone_ understands them well enough to use them correctly, even if the subtleties are lost on most people).
chooseaname 6y ago
My SO and I are registered NPA. Sucks because we're blocked from voting in the primaries, but I'd rather not be associated with any single party. One way we prepare for voting is we take the sample ballot and spend as many evenings (after the littles are asleep) as we can researching, individually, everything and every one on the ballot. We then discuss. We then fill out our sample ballot to take with us. Note, we do not vote the same. That's not the point. The point is to have a discussion and to help each other understand as much about what is on the ballot as we possibly can.

Voting by party line should be removed from ballots. This actually encourages partisanship versus having voters lookup and understand the candidates they are voting for.

pstuart 6y ago

Breaking up the 2 party duopoly would be good too. I have no idea how.

prklmn 6y ago
Ranked choice voting would be a good start.
- nocoolnametom 6y ago
  RCV is a fantastic idea, but it is very difficult to get it installed on a large scale. Only one state has tried (Maine) but their state Constitution as currently worded seems to disallow it (as their Supreme Court has warned them). So for many states you'd first have to amend the Constitution to allow for RCV (or go for broke and try to get RCV enshrined in your Constitution) and then hope that those who benefited from the previous First-Past-the-Post systems will act against their interest to implement it by law or will refrain from enacting laws to overturn a citizen's referendum (which is my home state of Utah's preferred way of invalidating all citizen referendum). That said, while it's not a perfect solution it leans so heavily towards resolving many existing issues that I've long decided that if any politician publicly supports it as part of their campaign they'll have my vote.
klyrs 6y ago
Progressive Democrats and Never Trump Republicans need to vacate their respective parties. No idea how you and I could effect that change though -- awkward thing about "democracy", we only get the choices presented to us by those in power.
- pstuart 6y ago
  My vote is held hostage by the Democratic party. I'm reluctant to expound upon that because that will invite a partisan pile-on and I've had enough of that here.
- rsynnott 6y ago
  The US electoral system (or at least the common one; one or two states have flirted with modernising it) makes more than two parties unviable. In general countries without proportional representation or similar are two party systems (or occasionally 2.5 party systems like the UK, for historical reasons), countries with PR are multiparty.
  - klyrs 6y ago
    Yeah that would be a great start. Sorry state of affairs in Canada and the US is that even when politicians run on a platform of election reform, they change their tune because the system worked for them. The excuse I hear most often is some form of the electorate being too stupid to navigate such a complicated system.
    - rsynnott 6y ago
      The _fairest_ PR systems actually are very complicated, which is why they're rarely used in practice. Systems like PR-STV, though, are both a lot fairer than first past the post, and relatively understandable (in countries that use them, most people understand the basic mechanics, and _everyone_ understands them well enough to use them correctly, even if the subtleties are lost on most people).

chooseaname 6y ago

My SO and I are registered NPA. Sucks because we're blocked from voting in the primaries, but I'd rather not be associated with any single party. One way we prepare for voting is we take the sample ballot and spend as many evenings (after the littles are asleep) as we can researching, individually, everything and every one on the ballot. We then discuss. We then fill out our sample ballot to take with us. Note, we do not vote the same. That's not the point. The point is to have a discussion and to help each other understand as much about what is on the ballot as we possibly can.