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I'm sorry, I've seen far too many smirks when explaining why my keyboard doesn't do the keys they want as I hurridly re-enable qwerty, or why I type like a 5 ye

I'm sorry, I've seen far too many smirks when explaining why my keyboard doesn't do the keys they want as I hurridly re-enable qwerty, or why I type like a 5 year old on their qwerty keyboard. And there's no way i'm getting someone to facilitate my keyboard fetish by installing/enabling any layouts. Plus, it's just _better_ when you can read the keys, and I can't go disassembling keyboards all the time to put the keys in the right place. There's just too much friction. Only Apple has the power to re-educate the world's typing habits, only then will I get back on the train. I say this as someone who used Colemak for 2 whole years btw.

co_dh 6y ago
Can't you just plug 2 keyboards, with 1 of them GMK based?
- beaker52 6y ago
  I hear you. I did it. But am I supposed to carry it around with me in a special case for all occasions? The short of it is that in the end, I stepped down from my horse and conceded that it was more sensible just to make peace with QWERTY and get good at QWERTY'ing. This won't be the case for everyone, I'm just trying to shed light on my experience as "the keyboard guy". Colemak worked for me. The ubiquity of QWERTY worked against me. In the end I capitulated because going against the grain wasn't worth it for me all things considered.
toyg 6y ago
> I've seen far too many smirks This reminds me of the "it's easy to be a weirdo now" thread from yesterday. (i.e. no it isn't, we just moved the window a bit) > no way i'm getting someone to facilitate my keyboard fetish That's demeaning to yourself. Ergonomics is important and a keyboard is a work tool. It's like saying that a basketball player has a "shoe fetish" for insisting on using a shoe that is not the same model as his teammates'. > Only Apple has the power to re-educate the world's typing habits What do you mean, that Apple should sell Colemak keyboards? I agree there, but it's a bit of a chicken and egg situation.
- beaker52 6y ago
  > What do you mean, that Apple should sell Colemak keyboards? I agree there, but it's a bit of a chicken and egg situation. You're right, it's chicken and egg. But Apple have a history of making a bold stand around product features. Phones without keypads, phones without audio jacks, laptops without CDROM, laptops without USB-A. If someone is able to ween the world off it's QWERTY habit - it's Apple. It doesn't need to be Workman or nothing. It could be as simple as offering Workman as an alternative replacement, signalling a shift toward Workman as the future. Then one day, probably before everyone is ready, no more QWERTY MacBook. Baptism by fire is the only way, in the end.

co_dh 6y ago

Can't you just plug 2 keyboards, with 1 of them GMK based?

beaker52 6y ago
I hear you. I did it. But am I supposed to carry it around with me in a special case for all occasions? The short of it is that in the end, I stepped down from my horse and conceded that it was more sensible just to make peace with QWERTY and get good at QWERTY'ing. This won't be the case for everyone, I'm just trying to shed light on my experience as "the keyboard guy". Colemak worked for me. The ubiquity of QWERTY worked against me. In the end I capitulated because going against the grain wasn't worth it for me all things considered.

toyg 6y ago

> I've seen far too many smirks This reminds me of the "it's easy to be a weirdo now" thread from yesterday. (i.e. no it isn't, we just moved the window a bit) > no way i'm getting someone to facilitate my keyboard fetish That's demeaning to yourself. Ergonomics is important and a keyboard is a work tool. It's like saying that a basketball player has a "shoe fetish" for insisting on using a shoe that is not the same model as his teammates'. > Only Apple has the power to re-educate the world's typing habits What do you mean, that Apple should sell Colemak keyboards? I agree there, but it's a bit of a chicken and egg situation.

beaker52 6y ago
> What do you mean, that Apple should sell Colemak keyboards? I agree there, but it's a bit of a chicken and egg situation. You're right, it's chicken and egg. But Apple have a history of making a bold stand around product features. Phones without keypads, phones without audio jacks, laptops without CDROM, laptops without USB-A. If someone is able to ween the world off it's QWERTY habit - it's Apple. It doesn't need to be Workman or nothing. It could be as simple as offering Workman as an alternative replacement, signalling a shift toward Workman as the future. Then one day, probably before everyone is ready, no more QWERTY MacBook. Baptism by fire is the only way, in the end.