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90% of all covid-19 deaths in Sweden have been people over the age of 70 [1] which is the only group of the population which have been quarantined. So it's argu

90% of all covid-19 deaths in Sweden have been people over the age of 70 [1] which is the only group of the population which have been quarantined. So it's arguable what difference a nation wide quarantine would have made. Of those over 70, half of the deaths were in care homes and another 26% had home care [2]. Many of the workers in care homes have reported that their companies/bosses won't allow them to stay home when they're showing symptoms and some have been forced to work without protective equipment. There have "only" been 42 deaths under the age of 50 [2]. [1] https://www.svd.se/90-procent-av-alla-doda-i-covid-19-over-70-ar https://www.svd.se/90-procent-av-alla-doda-i-covid-19-over-7... [2] https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/halften-av-alla-doda-over-70-ar-med-coronasmitta-bodde-pa-sarskilda-boenden https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/halften-av-alla-doda-over...

ptx 6y ago
Those numbers are a month old. There have now been 64 deaths[1] under the age of 50. In the age group between 50 and 70, which you didn't directly mention, 455 people have died. [1] https://www.svt.se/datajournalistik/har-sprider-sig-coronaviruset/ https://www.svt.se/datajournalistik/har-sprider-sig-coronavi...
- nounaut 6y ago
  Doesn't change the fact that the high death toll have been among the part of the population that were in fact in quarantine and would most likely have been the same had Sweden chosen a more common tactic.
  - addicted 6y ago
    They were in “quarantine”. Tegnell didn’t believe in the existence of asymptomatic carriers so younger care workers were allowed to visit them freely as long as they didn’t show symptoms. He made a huge mistake but is simply unwilling to admit it.
    - nounaut 6y ago
      Care takers have been forced to work with symptoms, and there's even one known case where a woman went to work at her care home after testing positive for covid-19 and staying quiet about it. This would not have changed with a different strategy.
    - jacobush 6y ago
      The actual execution of how elderly care is run, is very sloppy too. Lots of people come and go and didn't even use any PPE because there wasn't any. Also not washing hands, and using PPE incorrectly, and so on.
  - Ma8ee 6y ago
    They weren't under any effective quarantine. That was the big problem. I think that the biggest problem in Sweden has been that FHM (the public health agency) went out and said very clearly that the elderly were very vulnerable and needed protection. FHM thought that would be enough action from them. Unfortunately the care givers didn't take that seriously enough, so a lot of temporary workers came and went in the nursing homes without proper routines or equipment.
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ptx 6y ago

Those numbers are a month old. There have now been 64 deaths[1] under the age of 50. In the age group between 50 and 70, which you didn't directly mention, 455 people have died. [1] https://www.svt.se/datajournalistik/har-sprider-sig-coronaviruset/ https://www.svt.se/datajournalistik/har-sprider-sig-coronavi...

nounaut 6y ago
Doesn't change the fact that the high death toll have been among the part of the population that were in fact in quarantine and would most likely have been the same had Sweden chosen a more common tactic.
- addicted 6y ago
  They were in “quarantine”. Tegnell didn’t believe in the existence of asymptomatic carriers so younger care workers were allowed to visit them freely as long as they didn’t show symptoms. He made a huge mistake but is simply unwilling to admit it.
  - nounaut 6y ago
    Care takers have been forced to work with symptoms, and there's even one known case where a woman went to work at her care home after testing positive for covid-19 and staying quiet about it. This would not have changed with a different strategy.
  - jacobush 6y ago
    The actual execution of how elderly care is run, is very sloppy too. Lots of people come and go and didn't even use any PPE because there wasn't any. Also not washing hands, and using PPE incorrectly, and so on.
- Ma8ee 6y ago
  They weren't under any effective quarantine. That was the big problem. I think that the biggest problem in Sweden has been that FHM (the public health agency) went out and said very clearly that the elderly were very vulnerable and needed protection. FHM thought that would be enough action from them. Unfortunately the care givers didn't take that seriously enough, so a lot of temporary workers came and went in the nursing homes without proper routines or equipment.

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