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Why are American gangs not affected by gun control but European gangs are ? Is this some sort of American exceptionalism ?
by dmode 6y ago
Why are American gangs not affected by gun control but European gangs are ? Is this some sort of American exceptionalism ?
- renewiltord 6y agoI've noticed over time that things that can be done elsewhere on the world are impossible in America according to most Americans. I even particularly like America because it has more of the sort of liberty I like but it also has some of the most unbelievable defensiveness. For years, fibre was impossible in America. Turns out it wasn't. For years, bicycling was impossible in America. Turns out it isn't. Nothing is really possible in America. It's too diverse here, or too big, or too sparse, or has too many people, or has too few people, or too many cultures. Even electric cars weren't possible because America is too big for you to charge on your ride. But it's not. I think that's still the thing I like about the Bay Area in real life compared to the online America. In the online America, the current state is fully optimal under the constraints. It cannot improve. It is actually hyper-optimized to these constraints. In the Bay Area, there are no boundaries. Some fool will decide that freely available electric scooters are the future of urban transportation and some other fool will decide that laying fibre is a winning prospect and some other fool will decide that high-end bus services have value. Then it'll turn out that despite the assumptions of online America that the country is hyper-optimized to the constraints, the constraints don't actually exist, and of these three fools, none are fools, and one is very very right.
- twic 6y agoProfitable home delivery of groceries really does seem to be impossible in America, for some reason!
- renewiltord 6y agoYou know, that market appears so attractive but no one seems to be able to really succeed. I idly sometimes dream of an alternative model where you make money providing a white boxed delivery solution to the supply side using a general fleet. Not convinced yet that it’ll work but maybe it’s worth a shot sometime.
- tathougies 6y agoOkay great. Then why does California a state with severe gun restrictions have such a problem with gang violence? Can you please explain?
- renewiltord 6y agoI don’t think there’s profit to be made there so I haven’t given it much attention. But the patterns of reasons you’re using match the just-so stories that are common in these discussions that make facile models of the world. In my experience these models are generally wrong. So I’m content walking away without adjusting my priors because the work/reward is low.
- dmode 6y agoI don't think you know what you are talking about. California is experiencing the lowest level of gang violence ever. Oakland, LA, and San Francisco are seeing lowest homicide rates in decades. SF just had 35 homicides last year, compared to nearly 100 in 2007. Oakland had 75 last year, compared to close to 200 in the 90s. Based on data and stats, 3 things are true 1. CA has no gang problem 2. As South and Central population in CA has gone up, homicides have dramatically dropped 3. As more gun laws are introduced gun violence has radically reduced https://www.ktvu.com/news/oakland-murders-dip-to-lowest-level-in-19-years-not-everyone-impressed https://www.ktvu.com/news/oakland-murders-dip-to-lowest-leve... https://laist.com/2020/01/15/violent_crime_Los_Angeles_LAPD_Michel_Moore_homicide_property_crime_hit_and_run.php#:~:text=The%20homicide%20rate%20was%20the,said%20LAPD%20Chief%20Michel%20Moore https://laist.com/2020/01/15/violent_crime_Los_Angeles_LAPD_.... https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/san-francisco/san-francisco-officials-unveil-new-crime-stats/2218901/#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20data%2C%20homicides,rate%20in%20nearly%2060%20years https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/san-francisco/san-fran....
- tathougies 6y agoI don't disagree that California is safer now than ever. However, in the heydays of gang violence in CA, CA still had restrictive gun laws. They seem uncorrelated.
- tathougies 6y agoBecause america is next to Mexico which is actually quite literally run by warlords. Did you read the article I sent you? Central and South America have the highest murder rates in the world. Of course that spills over into the US. Turkey, Russia dont come close and those are the land borders of europe.
- dmode 6y agoEurope is a boat ride away from extremely poor African countries that are run over by gun toting rebel groups