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Here's an extensive reply to Chollet's essay, also by the author of "There's No Fire Alarm": https://intelligence.org/2017/12/06/chollet/ https://intelligence.
by Eliezer 6y ago
Here's an extensive reply to Chollet's essay, also by the author of "There's No Fire Alarm":
https://intelligence.org/2017/12/06/chollet/ https://intelligence.org/2017/12/06/chollet/
> ...some systems function very well in a broad variety of structured low-entropy environments. E.g. the human brain functions much better than other primate brains in an extremely broad set of environments, including many that natural selection did not explicitly optimize for. We remain functional on the Moon, because the Moon has enough in common with the Earth on a sufficiently deep meta-level that, for example, induction on past experience goes on functioning there.
>> The intelligence of an octopus is specialized in the problem of being an octopus. The intelligence of a human is specialized in the problem of being human.
> The problem that a human solves is much more general than the problem an octopus solves, which is why we can walk on the Moon and the octopus can’t.
>> Recursively self-improving systems, because of contingent bottlenecks, diminishing returns, and counter-reactions arising from the broader context in which they exist, cannot achieve exponential progress in practice. Empirically, they tend to display linear or sigmoidal improvement.
> Falsified by a graph of world GDP on almost any timescale.
- pavlov 6y agoAny graph of world GDP is meaninglessly short on the timescale of the Earth’s ecosystem. What looks like unstoppable success to us could be a blip in the broader context.
- square_usual 6y agoThat is not a "practical" time scale though. Sure, if we wait long enough, GDP might flatten out, but on human time scales so far it has grown exponentially. A similar analogy can be made for AGI.
- jkhdigital 6y agoStill plenty of time for GDP to turn into a sigmoid
- pjscott 6y agoSure, and if we're very lucky it'll eventually go quadratic as our species expands out into the universe in an ever-widening sphere. :-) Few things can grow exponentially forever, but a lot of things can grow exponentially for long enough to have huge consequences -- and that's usually what we care about.
- loopz 6y agoGDP is not an absolute measure.