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I’m at FB (throwaway account for good measure). It’s impossible to tell, especially working remotely. It’s not like you can ask these kinds of questions over W

I’m at FB (throwaway account for good measure). It’s impossible to tell, especially working remotely. It’s not like you can ask these kinds of questions over Workplace chat unless you’re close with other team members. But the perspective that there are people who agree with Zuck’s decision and aren’t speaking up is valid. I’m one of them despite generally agreeing with BLM _and_ being a person of color. You have people changing their profile pics to BLM icons which makes it ever so apparent that a non-negligible percent (20%-30% maybe) of co-workers in each group chat support the cause. During Q&As, 95% of the comments are from BLM supporters making quite blunt remarks about Zuck’s decision making. Director+ levels are also vocally against Zuck’s decision (although they accept that they can’t change his mind). I’m not willing to torpedo my career progression here, and imagine others feel the same. So yeah, I’ll be keeping my mouth shut and silently nodding along with the rest while Zuck gets rocks thrown at him.

tech-historian 6y ago
Really appreciate you sharing this inside perspective with us, thank you.
SamReidHughes 6y ago
Jesus Christ. I wonder how many of them are aware of the thousands of deaths that have occurred because of BLM's falsehoods.
- xnyan 6y ago
  Please go on.
  - SamReidHughes 6y ago
    They're responsible for 2015-2019 spike in the murder rate in black communities that has killed 10,000 extra people.
    - xnyan 6y ago
      Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Lets see it.
      - SamReidHughes 6y ago
        E.g. in Baltimore, we saw the homocide rate spiking as of Freddie Gray protests. https://epidemiological.net/2017/11/16/a-quick-geographical-analysis-of-homicides-in-baltimore-before-and-during-the-current-homicide-epidemic/ https://epidemiological.net/2017/11/16/a-quick-geographical-... https://www.copinthehood.com/2017/09/the-freddie-gray-effect-in-baltimore15.html https://www.copinthehood.com/2017/09/the-freddie-gray-effect... A particularly good visualization of Baltimore's murder rate is here: http://mistybeach.com/mark/BaltimoreHomicides.html http://mistybeach.com/mark/BaltimoreHomicides.html Baltimore's homocide clearance rate also dropped from 40% to some percentage in the 20's because the breakdown in police/community relations made people stopped snitching. There's a similar spike in St. Louis, timed to the Michael Brown killing. The national murder rate spiked 25% in the last two years of Obama's presidency, after decades of decline. There isn't any alternative explanation.
sultanofswing 6y ago
Just out of curiosity, what keeps you from speaking out (besides a strong feeling of group think). Have you actually experienced firings / ostracism from people at the company? While I do feel like your points would be contrarian (and may get shouted at), I'm wondering what the actual repercussions would be. Most of what I've seen (in regards to dissenters) have been relatively spirited debates and strong digital dissension but no strong tangible effects. I'm asking this in good faith as someone who sits on the other side of the fence on this issue (though like with most things am not 100% assured of my decision).

tech-historian 6y ago

Really appreciate you sharing this inside perspective with us, thank you.

SamReidHughes 6y ago

Jesus Christ. I wonder how many of them are aware of the thousands of deaths that have occurred because of BLM's falsehoods.

xnyan 6y ago
Please go on.
- SamReidHughes 6y ago
  They're responsible for 2015-2019 spike in the murder rate in black communities that has killed 10,000 extra people.
  - xnyan 6y ago
    Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Lets see it.
    - SamReidHughes 6y ago
      E.g. in Baltimore, we saw the homocide rate spiking as of Freddie Gray protests. https://epidemiological.net/2017/11/16/a-quick-geographical-analysis-of-homicides-in-baltimore-before-and-during-the-current-homicide-epidemic/ https://epidemiological.net/2017/11/16/a-quick-geographical-... https://www.copinthehood.com/2017/09/the-freddie-gray-effect-in-baltimore15.html https://www.copinthehood.com/2017/09/the-freddie-gray-effect... A particularly good visualization of Baltimore's murder rate is here: http://mistybeach.com/mark/BaltimoreHomicides.html http://mistybeach.com/mark/BaltimoreHomicides.html Baltimore's homocide clearance rate also dropped from 40% to some percentage in the 20's because the breakdown in police/community relations made people stopped snitching. There's a similar spike in St. Louis, timed to the Michael Brown killing. The national murder rate spiked 25% in the last two years of Obama's presidency, after decades of decline. There isn't any alternative explanation.

sultanofswing 6y ago

Just out of curiosity, what keeps you from speaking out (besides a strong feeling of group think). Have you actually experienced firings / ostracism from people at the company? While I do feel like your points would be contrarian (and may get shouted at), I'm wondering what the actual repercussions would be. Most of what I've seen (in regards to dissenters) have been relatively spirited debates and strong digital dissension but no strong tangible effects. I'm asking this in good faith as someone who sits on the other side of the fence on this issue (though like with most things am not 100% assured of my decision).