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Sweden has the highest per-capita rate of deaths from COVID. In Sweden, 4,500 people have died. In neighbouring Norway, 237 people died. Even adjusted for popu
by KarlKemp 6y ago
Sweden has the highest per-capita rate of deaths from COVID.
In Sweden, 4,500 people have died. In neighbouring Norway, 237 people died. Even adjusted for population, Sweden has 10x the deaths.
I'm a scientist as well and my math skills say their strategy sucks.
- prepend 6y agoFinland also only has 300 deaths. Sweden is not the highest in Europe, per capita, it’s fifth [0]. So it’s pretty bad out of 31 countries but better than Belgium. [0] https://www.statista.com/statistics/1111779/coronavirus-death-rate-europe-by-country/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/1111779/coronavirus-deat...
- timwaagh 6y agoLies greater lies and statistics... Belgium counts people who die in nursing homes as covid 19 deaths. They say Belgiums figure would be twice as small if they counted the way others did. Removing that anomaly the only countries higher are Spain, Italy and UK. The first two were hit very hard very early and the last had similar issues as Sweden, reacting very late.
- specialist 6y agoYup. All discussions should also include excess deaths.
- nfc 6y agoThis is the only source I've found to easily compare those https://euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps https://euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps
- tyldum 6y agoThe thing is, at least in Norway, less people than normal have died since COVID-19... So there is no excess.
- specialist 6y agoThen they would report negative excess deaths. That's important information.
- kalleboo 6y agoSweden has also been very good at counting deaths, there was a New York Times report that compared excess deaths and Sweden was the only region where reported COVID-19 deaths actually outnumbered excess deaths
- kgwgk 6y agoThe "negative excess" was due to reporting lags, repeating the NYT analysis with up-to-date data for that period there are actually "unexplained" deaths. But it actually seems they make a better job at counting than some other European countries (maybe not as good as Belgium, I don't know).
- timc3 6y agoI’ve been wondering if you take population density into account where that would put the figures as UK has much higher population density than Sweden
- oxymoron 6y agoSo does Sweden. The public health agency also reports weekly on excess deaths. About 80% of excess deaths are captured in the official COVID-19 statistics.
- dep_b 6y agoI can't imagine the Belgians being that much more inefficient than the Dutch. I always felt because of the lack of testing in The Netherlands the numbers are probably a bit higher. Until the 1st of June testing was extremely limited even for people that had all of the symptoms.
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- matz1 6y ago4500 out of 10 million ? 0.045% not bad considering Sweden doesn't do lock down. I wish more country adapt Sweden approach.
- KarlKemp 6y agoThey haven't stopped dying, though: Yesterday, Sweden had 74 deaths. Norway, meanwhile, hasn't had a single death in 9 days.
- matz1 6y agoDepends on how much more they have, if their hospital is not overwhelmed, its acceptable. >Norway, meanwhile, hasn't had a single death in 9 days But Norway has lockdown ? of course its a trade off
- kwhitefoot 6y ago> But Norway has lockdown ? No it doesn't. We have prohibitions on large gatherings but private individuals may come and go as they please, visit each other's houses, etc.
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- tephra 6y agoActually on the 3rd of June there was 1 death attributed to COVID-19. This is very likely to increase as we get more confirmations and backfills the data. The other 73 deaths reported are confirmed cases for other days.
- microtherion 6y agoYes, the data is very noisy, and yes, much of it is backfill, but elementary queuing theory suggests that if deaths by reporting date keep oscillating around the same level, deaths by occurrence date will eventually converge to that level as well.
- timwaagh 6y agoYeah being nice is all well and good but the results more or less speak for themselves. I hope they at least got some echo economic benefit out of it. It surprised me to see a country where politicians don't make this call. More surprising to see that the result turned out like this.