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>In order for any of this speculation around him being alive is true, you realize that this conspiracy would have to involve dozens of people at least, right?

>In order for any of this speculation around him being alive is true, you realize that this conspiracy would have to involve dozens of people at least, right? If Epstein's "death" had been witnessed by his cell mate, or the suicide watch he ought have been on, and if the cameras outside his cell worked, you'd be a lot more convincing right now. The coroner in George Floyd's case said he died from a heart issue, despite the fact he was murdered on video from multiple angles. So, there's immediate and highly visible precedent for coroner fraud. It's not like they're so well paid they can't take bribes, nor so connected as to be immune to pressure.

Lammy 6y ago
I'm not sure what I should believe when the forensic pathologist who ruled Epstein's death a suicide is the same guy who said that George Floyd's death was (seemingly-obviously) due to the neck compression: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Baden#Notable_cases https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Baden#Notable_cases
- nesxes 6y ago
  Seems like that wiki page says exactly the opposite. That Michael Baden was the forensic pathologist that disputed the idea that Epstein's death was suicide and stated that Floyd's death was due to mechanical asphyxia.
  - Lammy 6y ago
    I guess I need new reading glasses after all, whoops.
jjeaff 6y ago
Did the coroner actually say it was a heart issue? I read simply that the heart issue may have contributed. Which I understood as, he may have been asfixiated a bit quicker due to the heart issue. Which doesn't actually change anything as far as the murder goes, but that was what I understood them to mean.