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Some of us come from countries which have experienced communism first hand. Been there, done that, no thanks, keep me out of it next time. As a Polish(iirc, I c

Some of us come from countries which have experienced communism first hand. Been there, done that, no thanks, keep me out of it next time. As a Polish(iirc, I could be wrong) saying goes, "Capitalism is a system on the edge of a tall cliff. Communism is one step ahead."

jahaja 6y ago
Are your general belief that people supporting Socialism today looks to the USSR as a role model?
- axegon_ 6y ago
  Pffff... Beats me to be fair. I consider myself a centrist as far as ideology goes, slightly leaning towards the right. In eastern Europe, the left-wing supporters are largely the elderly. You are very unlikely to find young people supporting the idea, even less so among those who have had experience with it. The support for the left and socialism in these regions then is simply a reflection of what the USSR model was, whether it's blind and fanatical ideology, nostalgia or what is effectively brainwashing (the evil west spies killing babies and all the other conspiracy theories). Truth be told they are incredibly similar to Alex Jones and his views, the only difference I see is the packaging. Looking at the socialists in central and western Europe, as well as across the ocean, I have a hard time figuring out what it is they are aiming for or support. Which is not to say that I don't think that people like Trump or Bojo are not morons. They absolutely are and this is what actually worries me - superpowers that end up choosing between those two options. That terrifies me.
- iagovar 6y ago
  IDK his POV, but in mine, I believe most people supporting Socialism has no role model, in part because there hasn't been any Socalism that worked out, so they end up talking about this mythical socialist unicorn. Some of them believe that Venezuela and Cuba are just fine. I'm talking about Spain.
asjw 6y ago
In my opinion that's one view, coming from an extreme form of rulership that was established (especially in Poland) after what happened during WW2: nazi occupation, mass deportations, concentration camps etc. etc. I come from the country with the largest communist party in the West and I believe it helped the people here to get more freedom and social justice that they would have achieved otherwise

jahaja 6y ago

Are your general belief that people supporting Socialism today looks to the USSR as a role model?

axegon_ 6y ago
Pffff... Beats me to be fair. I consider myself a centrist as far as ideology goes, slightly leaning towards the right. In eastern Europe, the left-wing supporters are largely the elderly. You are very unlikely to find young people supporting the idea, even less so among those who have had experience with it. The support for the left and socialism in these regions then is simply a reflection of what the USSR model was, whether it's blind and fanatical ideology, nostalgia or what is effectively brainwashing (the evil west spies killing babies and all the other conspiracy theories). Truth be told they are incredibly similar to Alex Jones and his views, the only difference I see is the packaging. Looking at the socialists in central and western Europe, as well as across the ocean, I have a hard time figuring out what it is they are aiming for or support. Which is not to say that I don't think that people like Trump or Bojo are not morons. They absolutely are and this is what actually worries me - superpowers that end up choosing between those two options. That terrifies me.
iagovar 6y ago
IDK his POV, but in mine, I believe most people supporting Socialism has no role model, in part because there hasn't been any Socalism that worked out, so they end up talking about this mythical socialist unicorn. Some of them believe that Venezuela and Cuba are just fine. I'm talking about Spain.

asjw 6y ago

In my opinion that's one view, coming from an extreme form of rulership that was established (especially in Poland) after what happened during WW2: nazi occupation, mass deportations, concentration camps etc. etc. I come from the country with the largest communist party in the West and I believe it helped the people here to get more freedom and social justice that they would have achieved otherwise