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Much more important: Schools are moving to Office 365 in a rush in face of Covid-19. There are data protection concerns but a crisis can shift priorities so it

Much more important: Schools are moving to Office 365 in a rush in face of Covid-19. There are data protection concerns but a crisis can shift priorities so it seems.

panpanna 6y ago
Right now we need an opensource teleconferencing system much more than an opensource OS. Edit: I think people recommending jitsi below misunderstood my comment
- danbtl 6y ago
  Try Jitsi: https://jitsi.org/ https://jitsi.org/
- hmartiniano 6y ago
  Here you go: https://jitsi.org/jitsi-meet/ https://jitsi.org/jitsi-meet/
- foldor 6y ago
  You mean like Jitsi?
- ajvs 6y ago
  So Jitsi?
- artonge 6y ago
  What did they not get about your comment ?
- rapnie 6y ago
  Maybe BigBueButton, then? https://bigbluebutton.org/ https://bigbluebutton.org/
  - murermader 6y ago
    My university is using BBB for its only lectures, and it has been great so far (~2 months). I think it also is a self hosted solution, which is great.
rb808 6y ago
Worse, Google Classrooms for most of the kids I know.
INTPenis 6y ago
Not just schools, what scares me is that healthcare is moving to the cloud. I know from an insider that one of the largest areas of Sweden, at least one, has been moving to office365. While conscious people inside the very same organisation have been trying to prevent the move of data into the hands of a foreign company. And at the same time large telcos with a lot of government clients have also moved to office365 but with warnings to their employees that they should avoid storing certain client files in this cloud solution until the legal situation is resolved. WTF So basically these consultancy companies have a legal requirement not to store client data in a foreign cloud if that client is part of the Swedish government. But at the same time healthcare is moving to the cloud. I wish I knew more about the legal situation, all I can give you are the observations and musings of a geek.
- warkdarrior 6y ago
  Lots of cloud services have in-country presence, so that they actually guarantee the local (in-country) storage of data. It is similar to how IBM offers/used to offer managed services -- they have the hardware and the software, it may be on prem or in a local data center, and they manage the application offering for you.
  - corty 6y ago
    In-country presence of american companies has been proven to be nonviable because american courts can order data to be handed over from the foreign daughters to american agencies https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Act https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Act
- brnt 6y ago
  Here in NL its very lucrative, healthcare software and consulting. All they care about is externalising responsibility. As long as they can blame another party, their ass is covered and therefore their work done. It's soul crushing.

Much more important: Schools are moving to Office 365 in a rush in face of Covid-19. There are data protection concerns but a crisis can shift priorities so it seems.

panpanna 6y ago

Right now we need an opensource teleconferencing system much more than an opensource OS. Edit: I think people recommending jitsi below misunderstood my comment

danbtl 6y ago
Try Jitsi: https://jitsi.org/ https://jitsi.org/
hmartiniano 6y ago
Here you go: https://jitsi.org/jitsi-meet/ https://jitsi.org/jitsi-meet/
foldor 6y ago
You mean like Jitsi?
ajvs 6y ago
So Jitsi?
artonge 6y ago
What did they not get about your comment ?
rapnie 6y ago
Maybe BigBueButton, then? https://bigbluebutton.org/ https://bigbluebutton.org/
- murermader 6y ago
  My university is using BBB for its only lectures, and it has been great so far (~2 months). I think it also is a self hosted solution, which is great.

rb808 6y ago

Worse, Google Classrooms for most of the kids I know.

INTPenis 6y ago

Not just schools, what scares me is that healthcare is moving to the cloud. I know from an insider that one of the largest areas of Sweden, at least one, has been moving to office365. While conscious people inside the very same organisation have been trying to prevent the move of data into the hands of a foreign company. And at the same time large telcos with a lot of government clients have also moved to office365 but with warnings to their employees that they should avoid storing certain client files in this cloud solution until the legal situation is resolved. WTF So basically these consultancy companies have a legal requirement not to store client data in a foreign cloud if that client is part of the Swedish government. But at the same time healthcare is moving to the cloud. I wish I knew more about the legal situation, all I can give you are the observations and musings of a geek.

warkdarrior 6y ago
Lots of cloud services have in-country presence, so that they actually guarantee the local (in-country) storage of data. It is similar to how IBM offers/used to offer managed services -- they have the hardware and the software, it may be on prem or in a local data center, and they manage the application offering for you.
- corty 6y ago
  In-country presence of american companies has been proven to be nonviable because american courts can order data to be handed over from the foreign daughters to american agencies https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Act https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Act
brnt 6y ago
Here in NL its very lucrative, healthcare software and consulting. All they care about is externalising responsibility. As long as they can blame another party, their ass is covered and therefore their work done. It's soul crushing.