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Been hoping to use this but it just brings my MBP 2019 to it's knees, like actually feels dangerously hot about 30 seconds after activating it. Windows version

Been hoping to use this but it just brings my MBP 2019 to it's knees, like actually feels dangerously hot about 30 seconds after activating it. Windows version doing the same thing feels light as a feather when running (3% CPU, <10% GPU usage)

groobongithub 6y ago
My experience has been that my MBP gets hot if I try to share a specific window. Switching from a window as a source, to a full screen source has improved OBS performance quite a bit. And I do use this plugin.
- wastedhours 6y ago
  Tangentially related, I've seen that behaviour with Google Meet as well. Sharing a specific tab takes a much bigger performance hit than sharing the whole screen.
  - londons_explore 6y ago
    Tab sharing has code deep into the Blink rendering engine... To the extent that it's actually possible to share a specific <div> or other HTML element, even if it isn't visible! (Not sure if you can do that from javascript, but you can totally do it from C++) The side effects seems to be that a bunch of the code that prevents the same thing being re-rendered with every frame if it hasn't changed gets bypassed, and I'd bet that kills performance.
aksss 6y ago
May go without saying but disabling the video preview really helps resource usage.
- johnboiles 6y ago
  Whoa I didn't even know this was an OBS feature and (obviously) I've spent a good bit of time with OBS :) I'll definitely be using this!
trillic 6y ago
13" or 15"? Dedicated GPU? Looking for some more info before I attempt to use it on my machine.
- whywhywhywhy 6y ago
  13" no GPU.
tmpz22 6y ago
What surface were you using your laptop on? IMO Apple made the design choice to be hot as hell on some surfaces as a trade off for other advantages, so maybe some of the fault is not on this software.
- whywhywhywhy 6y ago
  Wooden table.
codazoda 6y ago
Make sure the power adapter is connected at the right (not left) side of the MBP.
- woodrowbarlow 6y ago
  i'm marveling at how well this comment exemplifies everything that's wrong with USB-C.
  - Dunedan 6y ago
    That's not related to problems with USB-C, but to Apple messing up their hardware design. This was discussed recently here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22957573 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22957573
    - woodrowbarlow 6y ago
      i didn't realize; thank you for the context. i'd still point back to USB-C's complexities, though. apple isn't the only major company to have gotten USB-C wrong; look at the nintendo switch.
- whywhywhywhy 6y ago
  Don't have a choice, my MBP only has two ports on the left side.
buglite 6y ago
Right now there is an open issue about a performance degradation in the last versions of OBS for macOS. https://github.com/obsproject/obs-studio/issues/2841 https://github.com/obsproject/obs-studio/issues/2841 I don't know if it is correlated to your problem though.
johnboiles 6y ago
FWIW there's definitely some performance optimization that could be done in my plugin. Three things I know of: 1) Potentially an entire framebuffer memory copy could be avoided if we could get CMBlockBufferCreateWithMemoryBlock to work. See the CMSampleBufferCreateFromDataNoCopy method (currently unused -- linked below) in my code. It mostly worked but the virtual camera video wouldn't show up at full resolution in OBS, which is how I typically test while developing. Not sure why it wasn't working; possible it's an obscure OBS bug. https://github.com/johnboiles/obs-mac-virtualcam/blob/master/src/dal-plugin/CMSampleBufferUtils.mm#L102 https://github.com/johnboiles/obs-mac-virtualcam/blob/master... 2) It might also be possible to get the virtual camera to advertise one of the pixel formats that OBS supports natively which would avoid the pixel format conversion in the CPU. I _bet_ this is where the majority of the performance hit from my plugin happens. I'm not sure if this is possible, however. Maybe OBS doesn't natively support any formats you can use for virtual cameras. https://github.com/johnboiles/obs-mac-virtualcam/issues/102 https://github.com/johnboiles/obs-mac-virtualcam/issues/102 3) If #2 isn't possible, maybe the pixel format transformation could happen on the GPU? I don't know much about GPU programming but maybe this would help.
FraKtus 6y ago
You can lower the size of the canvas to need fewer resources. I am using OBS a lot with a MacBook Pro Mid 2012 but I stay in 720p.

groobongithub 6y ago

My experience has been that my MBP gets hot if I try to share a specific window. Switching from a window as a source, to a full screen source has improved OBS performance quite a bit. And I do use this plugin.

wastedhours 6y ago
Tangentially related, I've seen that behaviour with Google Meet as well. Sharing a specific tab takes a much bigger performance hit than sharing the whole screen.
- londons_explore 6y ago
  Tab sharing has code deep into the Blink rendering engine... To the extent that it's actually possible to share a specific <div> or other HTML element, even if it isn't visible! (Not sure if you can do that from javascript, but you can totally do it from C++) The side effects seems to be that a bunch of the code that prevents the same thing being re-rendered with every frame if it hasn't changed gets bypassed, and I'd bet that kills performance.

aksss 6y ago

May go without saying but disabling the video preview really helps resource usage.

johnboiles 6y ago
Whoa I didn't even know this was an OBS feature and (obviously) I've spent a good bit of time with OBS :) I'll definitely be using this!

trillic 6y ago

13" or 15"? Dedicated GPU? Looking for some more info before I attempt to use it on my machine.

whywhywhywhy 6y ago
13" no GPU.

tmpz22 6y ago

What surface were you using your laptop on? IMO Apple made the design choice to be hot as hell on some surfaces as a trade off for other advantages, so maybe some of the fault is not on this software.

whywhywhywhy 6y ago
Wooden table.

codazoda 6y ago

Make sure the power adapter is connected at the right (not left) side of the MBP.

woodrowbarlow 6y ago
i'm marveling at how well this comment exemplifies everything that's wrong with USB-C.
- Dunedan 6y ago
  That's not related to problems with USB-C, but to Apple messing up their hardware design. This was discussed recently here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22957573 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22957573
  - woodrowbarlow 6y ago
    i didn't realize; thank you for the context. i'd still point back to USB-C's complexities, though. apple isn't the only major company to have gotten USB-C wrong; look at the nintendo switch.
whywhywhywhy 6y ago
Don't have a choice, my MBP only has two ports on the left side.

buglite 6y ago

Right now there is an open issue about a performance degradation in the last versions of OBS for macOS. https://github.com/obsproject/obs-studio/issues/2841 https://github.com/obsproject/obs-studio/issues/2841 I don't know if it is correlated to your problem though.

johnboiles 6y ago

FWIW there's definitely some performance optimization that could be done in my plugin. Three things I know of: 1) Potentially an entire framebuffer memory copy could be avoided if we could get CMBlockBufferCreateWithMemoryBlock to work. See the CMSampleBufferCreateFromDataNoCopy method (currently unused -- linked below) in my code. It mostly worked but the virtual camera video wouldn't show up at full resolution in OBS, which is how I typically test while developing. Not sure why it wasn't working; possible it's an obscure OBS bug. https://github.com/johnboiles/obs-mac-virtualcam/blob/master/src/dal-plugin/CMSampleBufferUtils.mm#L102 https://github.com/johnboiles/obs-mac-virtualcam/blob/master... 2) It might also be possible to get the virtual camera to advertise one of the pixel formats that OBS supports natively which would avoid the pixel format conversion in the CPU. I _bet_ this is where the majority of the performance hit from my plugin happens. I'm not sure if this is possible, however. Maybe OBS doesn't natively support any formats you can use for virtual cameras. https://github.com/johnboiles/obs-mac-virtualcam/issues/102 https://github.com/johnboiles/obs-mac-virtualcam/issues/102 3) If #2 isn't possible, maybe the pixel format transformation could happen on the GPU? I don't know much about GPU programming but maybe this would help.

FraKtus 6y ago

You can lower the size of the canvas to need fewer resources. I am using OBS a lot with a MacBook Pro Mid 2012 but I stay in 720p.