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“We strongly dispute these claims and we will defend ourselves vigorously against them,” Castaneda said in an email. I wonder what it is they actually dispute,

by ve55 6y ago

“We strongly dispute these claims and we will defend ourselves vigorously against them,” Castaneda said in an email. I wonder what it is they actually dispute, when the claims are so basic? Most popular websites use GA, so of course Google is watching every single user action across the Internet, regardless of if they have tried to 'opt out' via any methods, laws, processed, etc.

dahfizz 6y ago
Obviously this article is written for the general public and not in legalese. But this line gives a hint: > The suit includes claims for invasion of privacy and violations of federal wiretapping law. The claims Google disputes is that they are breaking the law. > I wonder what it is they actually dispute, when the claims are so basic. The claims can be summarized basically, but proving that someone has broken the law in court is not basic. This basic overview of federal wiretapping laws is over 70 pages[1]. Laws are filled with specific minutia. Here is another good overview of privacy law[2]. Even though the statement "Google violated my privacy" seems simple and self evident, to prove it in a court of law there are tons of very specific criteria you have to prove. [1] https://epic.org/privacy/wiretap/98-326.pdf https://epic.org/privacy/wiretap/98-326.pdf [2] https://www.stimmel-law.com/en/articles/legal-right-privacy https://www.stimmel-law.com/en/articles/legal-right-privacy
- ve55 6y ago
  Great response, thanks. The US is definitely a more difficult environment to prove that their privacy violations are not just violations of privacy, but also of law. I wonder if these wiretapping laws are really the best route to go about attempting to prove this.
kinkrtyavimoodh 6y ago
The claims are basic, the conclusions are ridiculous. The lawsuit is on the conclusions, which probably won't even fly, but some trolls managed to get their course-project-level PDF read by millions.

by ve55 6y ago

dahfizz 6y ago

Obviously this article is written for the general public and not in legalese. But this line gives a hint: > The suit includes claims for invasion of privacy and violations of federal wiretapping law. The claims Google disputes is that they are breaking the law. > I wonder what it is they actually dispute, when the claims are so basic. The claims can be summarized basically, but proving that someone has broken the law in court is not basic. This basic overview of federal wiretapping laws is over 70 pages[1]. Laws are filled with specific minutia. Here is another good overview of privacy law[2]. Even though the statement "Google violated my privacy" seems simple and self evident, to prove it in a court of law there are tons of very specific criteria you have to prove. [1] https://epic.org/privacy/wiretap/98-326.pdf https://epic.org/privacy/wiretap/98-326.pdf [2] https://www.stimmel-law.com/en/articles/legal-right-privacy https://www.stimmel-law.com/en/articles/legal-right-privacy

ve55 6y ago
Great response, thanks. The US is definitely a more difficult environment to prove that their privacy violations are not just violations of privacy, but also of law. I wonder if these wiretapping laws are really the best route to go about attempting to prove this.

kinkrtyavimoodh 6y ago

The claims are basic, the conclusions are ridiculous. The lawsuit is on the conclusions, which probably won't even fly, but some trolls managed to get their course-project-level PDF read by millions.