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Interesting switzerland is mentioned, there does seem to be a shortage of programmers here, our company recruits a sizeable chunk from abroad. Also, if you sear

Interesting switzerland is mentioned, there does seem to be a shortage of programmers here, our company recruits a sizeable chunk from abroad. Also, if you search in a local language, especially german, there are a lot of open positions, where fluent command of the local language is required.

joelbluminator 6y ago
I considered immigrating to Switzerland at some point but the heavy emphasis on local languages (even in programming jobs) put me off. It's much more relaxed in the Netherlands.
- snovv_crash 6y ago
  Depends what kind of programming job. A manufacturing setup which hires a lot of trade-school labor, sure. A startup, less so. Also, learning the local language helps integrating once you arrive.
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  - joelbluminator 6y ago
    Take a look at the Rails jobs in Switzerland, which is mostly a startup stack: https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/search/?currentJobId=1891706097&geoId=106693272&keywords=rails&location=Switzerland https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/search/?currentJobId=189170609... Quite a few job descriptions are in German / French. In others the description could be in English but they will ask for basic/middle level of German. And then there are the few (hard to estimate how many) that don't care for language at all. But when you consider that to begin with the Swiss job market is small, this means it's much harder to find a job there than a place like Germany / Netherlands / UK for an immigrant. Now sure, some people will happily jump through hoops because Switzerland is undeniable a high salary, low tax, high quality of life country. I guess I'm not one of those people :p)
Leherenn 6y ago
Higher education is a pretty low percentage of the population in Switzerland, so I'd say it's not surprising given the number of high technology companies. As far as I know, some specialisations are simply not found at all (e.g. aerospace engineering). But it's all over the economy really, Switzerland is really reliant an foreign labour. Just have a look at construction or healthcare.

joelbluminator 6y ago

I considered immigrating to Switzerland at some point but the heavy emphasis on local languages (even in programming jobs) put me off. It's much more relaxed in the Netherlands.

snovv_crash 6y ago
Depends what kind of programming job. A manufacturing setup which hires a lot of trade-school labor, sure. A startup, less so. Also, learning the local language helps integrating once you arrive.
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- joelbluminator 6y ago
  Take a look at the Rails jobs in Switzerland, which is mostly a startup stack: https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/search/?currentJobId=1891706097&geoId=106693272&keywords=rails&location=Switzerland https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/search/?currentJobId=189170609... Quite a few job descriptions are in German / French. In others the description could be in English but they will ask for basic/middle level of German. And then there are the few (hard to estimate how many) that don't care for language at all. But when you consider that to begin with the Swiss job market is small, this means it's much harder to find a job there than a place like Germany / Netherlands / UK for an immigrant. Now sure, some people will happily jump through hoops because Switzerland is undeniable a high salary, low tax, high quality of life country. I guess I'm not one of those people :p)

Leherenn 6y ago

Higher education is a pretty low percentage of the population in Switzerland, so I'd say it's not surprising given the number of high technology companies. As far as I know, some specialisations are simply not found at all (e.g. aerospace engineering). But it's all over the economy really, Switzerland is really reliant an foreign labour. Just have a look at construction or healthcare.