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Really depends on where you are, and who you interact with. Anecdata: I haven't had any real issues. I have had some worries about undue benefits, and some peo

Really depends on where you are, and who you interact with. Anecdata: I haven't had any real issues. I have had some worries about undue benefits, and some people become more "careful" once they find out. It really isn't an issue where I live, from my experience.

foldr 6y ago
>Really depends on where you are, and who you interact with. And that is emphatically not true for straight people: they are accepted everywhere. If you have to be careful about where you go and who you interact with because of your sexuality, then -- even if you take those restrictions on your life for granted by now -- it's still a demonstration of the continued power of homophobia. I get what you're saying, but I think that attitudes to homophobia are sort of where attitudes to race were in the 90s. People are tempted to mark eliminating homophobia as 'done'. But if you look beyond more privileged folks, there's actually still a ton of homophobia out there, with real consequences. For example, it's been estimated that around 40% of NYC's homeless population is LGBT.
- dpbriggs 6y ago
  > I assume you mean 'undue' benefits, and not some kind of special undo feature only available to us gays :) Whoops, fixed :P - Thank you! > And that is emphatically not true for straight people That is a good point. I haven't thought of it as homophobia, but perhaps it is. I definitely recognize that I've been fortunate. Young, in a progressive area, with a good job. Hard to beat. > 40% of NYC's homeless population is LGBT I wasn't aware of that, and that is awful.
- NikolaeVarius 6y ago
  > 40% of NYC's homeless population is LGBT Source
  - foldr 6y ago
    I believe that particular figure originally comes from http://www.nyc.gov/html/om/pdf/2010/pr267_10_report.pdf http://www.nyc.gov/html/om/pdf/2010/pr267_10_report.pdf and https://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/national/20070307HomelessYouth.pdf https://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/national/20070307... . 40% is at the upper end of the estimates, and any specific figure should obviously be taken with a pinch of salt, given the difficulties inherent in obtaining precise data of this nature. However, there is little doubt that LGBT people are substantially overrepresented in homeless populations. This is the case in many cities and countries, not just NYC.
    - NikolaeVarius 6y ago
      That is youth though which is a very different claim
      - foldr 6y ago
        Yes, it's generally young people who get kicked out of their parents' homes for being gay or trans. I forgot to add the 'youth' qualifier in my comment - my bad.

foldr 6y ago

>Really depends on where you are, and who you interact with. And that is emphatically not true for straight people: they are accepted everywhere. If you have to be careful about where you go and who you interact with because of your sexuality, then -- even if you take those restrictions on your life for granted by now -- it's still a demonstration of the continued power of homophobia. I get what you're saying, but I think that attitudes to homophobia are sort of where attitudes to race were in the 90s. People are tempted to mark eliminating homophobia as 'done'. But if you look beyond more privileged folks, there's actually still a ton of homophobia out there, with real consequences. For example, it's been estimated that around 40% of NYC's homeless population is LGBT.

dpbriggs 6y ago
> I assume you mean 'undue' benefits, and not some kind of special undo feature only available to us gays :) Whoops, fixed :P - Thank you! > And that is emphatically not true for straight people That is a good point. I haven't thought of it as homophobia, but perhaps it is. I definitely recognize that I've been fortunate. Young, in a progressive area, with a good job. Hard to beat. > 40% of NYC's homeless population is LGBT I wasn't aware of that, and that is awful.
NikolaeVarius 6y ago
> 40% of NYC's homeless population is LGBT Source
- foldr 6y ago
  I believe that particular figure originally comes from http://www.nyc.gov/html/om/pdf/2010/pr267_10_report.pdf http://www.nyc.gov/html/om/pdf/2010/pr267_10_report.pdf and https://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/national/20070307HomelessYouth.pdf https://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/national/20070307... . 40% is at the upper end of the estimates, and any specific figure should obviously be taken with a pinch of salt, given the difficulties inherent in obtaining precise data of this nature. However, there is little doubt that LGBT people are substantially overrepresented in homeless populations. This is the case in many cities and countries, not just NYC.
  - NikolaeVarius 6y ago
    That is youth though which is a very different claim
    - foldr 6y ago
      Yes, it's generally young people who get kicked out of their parents' homes for being gay or trans. I forgot to add the 'youth' qualifier in my comment - my bad.