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> Things like app connectivity are after thoughts and not core to their products. Good! God help us the day something like a fan or a vacuum cleaner needs "ap

> Things like app connectivity are after thoughts and not core to their products. Good! God help us the day something like a fan or a vacuum cleaner needs "app connectivity".

adwww 6y ago
True. Although, I have a secondhand fan / air purifier of theirs, and in theory the smart features of that are ideal - setting timers, voice control, etc. But it's crippled by poor UI, only supporting Alexa, and an arbitrary limit of how many schedules you can set, etc.
fastball 6y ago
A "connected" fan definitely has its uses, especially if it can sense if I'm in the room or not. "Connected" vacuums are already here, but they're called Roomba, not Dyson.
- kelnage 6y ago
  Dyson Eye 360: https://www.dyson.co.uk/robot-vacuums/dyson-360-heurist-overview.html https://www.dyson.co.uk/robot-vacuums/dyson-360-heurist-over... Although the connectivity with their app is a bit rubbish half the time!
sumedh 6y ago
We already have app connectivity for the robot vacuum cleaners.
acallaghan 6y ago
A good example of intelligent appliances would be like my Samsung washing machine... It had an error, so I called their support line. They asked me to hold down two buttons simultaneously, then put my phone near the door. It let out a 10s or so digital song, the kind that modems did in the 90s - that gave them an entire diagnostic, age, model etc, and they sent someone around as they knew I couldn't fix it. Pretty amazing stuff.
- creeble 6y ago
  A counter example of an unintelligent washing machine: My Whirlpool emitted a diagnostic puddle of water underneath it. I Googled the seal, ordered it from an independent supplier, and installed it myself. It is now on its 25th year of use with us, and cost less than $400 when new.
  - MengerSponge 6y ago
    I'm imagining your Whirlpool singing a happy diagnostic song while it wees on your floor
  - teachrdan 6y ago
    While I, too, am using an ancient washing machine in my home, it's not exactly an apples to apples comparison. New washing machines use far less water and electricity than their older counterparts. They also remove more water during their spin cycle, reducing the amount of drying necessary. And if your dryer uses natural gas (as mine does), a newer washing machine will reduce your use of natural gas as well.
    - troyvit 6y ago
      What kills me is that every feature you mention can be done without needing an app, an lcd, or the cloud, and the same thing applies to electric cars. How much cheaper would an electric car like a tesla be if it didn't have autopilot, electronic keys, and LCDs everywhere? How much more secure would it be without an e-key to unlock it? I hope when I'm ready to buy an electric car I can find something like that.
      - Gibbon1 6y ago
        I'll be interesting if the gadgetness continues once the cost to build an EV drops below a basic gasoline powered car. My commute is 8 miles of which 6 is on a freeway. Doesn't feel like a burden. Unlike say a tech bro doing his 50 mile commute down 101. So I'm dubious an autopilot would be a big win from me.
      - 6y ago
ryder9 6y ago
sounds like you're experiencing technophobia

> Things like app connectivity are after thoughts and not core to their products. Good! God help us the day something like a fan or a vacuum cleaner needs "app connectivity".

adwww 6y ago

True. Although, I have a secondhand fan / air purifier of theirs, and in theory the smart features of that are ideal - setting timers, voice control, etc. But it's crippled by poor UI, only supporting Alexa, and an arbitrary limit of how many schedules you can set, etc.

fastball 6y ago

A "connected" fan definitely has its uses, especially if it can sense if I'm in the room or not. "Connected" vacuums are already here, but they're called Roomba, not Dyson.

kelnage 6y ago
Dyson Eye 360: https://www.dyson.co.uk/robot-vacuums/dyson-360-heurist-overview.html https://www.dyson.co.uk/robot-vacuums/dyson-360-heurist-over... Although the connectivity with their app is a bit rubbish half the time!

sumedh 6y ago

We already have app connectivity for the robot vacuum cleaners.

acallaghan 6y ago

A good example of intelligent appliances would be like my Samsung washing machine... It had an error, so I called their support line. They asked me to hold down two buttons simultaneously, then put my phone near the door. It let out a 10s or so digital song, the kind that modems did in the 90s - that gave them an entire diagnostic, age, model etc, and they sent someone around as they knew I couldn't fix it. Pretty amazing stuff.

creeble 6y ago
A counter example of an unintelligent washing machine: My Whirlpool emitted a diagnostic puddle of water underneath it. I Googled the seal, ordered it from an independent supplier, and installed it myself. It is now on its 25th year of use with us, and cost less than $400 when new.
- MengerSponge 6y ago
  I'm imagining your Whirlpool singing a happy diagnostic song while it wees on your floor
- teachrdan 6y ago
  While I, too, am using an ancient washing machine in my home, it's not exactly an apples to apples comparison. New washing machines use far less water and electricity than their older counterparts. They also remove more water during their spin cycle, reducing the amount of drying necessary. And if your dryer uses natural gas (as mine does), a newer washing machine will reduce your use of natural gas as well.
  - troyvit 6y ago
    What kills me is that every feature you mention can be done without needing an app, an lcd, or the cloud, and the same thing applies to electric cars. How much cheaper would an electric car like a tesla be if it didn't have autopilot, electronic keys, and LCDs everywhere? How much more secure would it be without an e-key to unlock it? I hope when I'm ready to buy an electric car I can find something like that.
    - Gibbon1 6y ago
      I'll be interesting if the gadgetness continues once the cost to build an EV drops below a basic gasoline powered car. My commute is 8 miles of which 6 is on a freeway. Doesn't feel like a burden. Unlike say a tech bro doing his 50 mile commute down 101. So I'm dubious an autopilot would be a big win from me.
    - 6y ago

ryder9 6y ago

sounds like you're experiencing technophobia