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> The point is, people feel (not wrongfully) uncomfortable when their identity is “threatened” by people who represent themselves with a brand of politics that

> The point is, people feel (not wrongfully) uncomfortable when their identity is “threatened” by people who represent themselves with a brand of politics that is oppositional to the one that markets to them. Do you have specific examples?

dfee 6y ago
Sure. Go to a Ducks Unlimited banquet and tell folks you’re a Democrat and they may contextualize gun control as your agenda. Tell your Bay Area colleagues you’re a Republican and you’ll be contextualized as close minded. Tell people you’re unaffiliated and they’ll often see you as an antagonist to their pet causes. Don’t tell people anything, and they usually won’t put up a guard.
- danharaj 6y ago
  No no, those are hypothetical. What's happened to you?
  - dfee 6y ago
    You don’t get to arbitrate what has and has not happened to me. What sort of oddball remark was this? Funny story about that banquet though. A guy at my table paid a few hundred dollars in a silent auction thinking that he was bidding on a gun. He was actually bidding on a lottery ticket for a gun. His wife was unhappy with his mistake. He did win a duck call alongside the lottery ticket IIRC. This was in NW Arkansas and was a part of a crawfish boil. Definitely not the Bay Area.
    - danharaj 6y ago
      You're right. I apologize. An auction for a lottery ticket to win a gun. Are you sure there wasn't a raffle involved somewhere? :^)
      - pstuart 6y ago
        A raffle for a rifle?
        danharaj 6y ago
        Better keep the riffraff out.
- karatestomp 6y ago
  > Sure. Go to a Ducks Unlimited banquet and tell folks you’re a Democrat and they may contextualize gun control as your agenda. Tell your Bay Area colleagues you’re a Republican and you’ll be contextualized as close minded. That's just... assuming you more-or-less support the planks/stances/actions of party you've just told them you consider yourself affiliated with. Where's the identity part come in?
  - michaelt 6y ago
    Many people don't support 100% of their party's policies - they just agree with them on the 2 or 3 things that are really important to them. This is a normal state of affairs in a two-party system. For example, maybe I really like my party's stance on abortion and energy policy; I'm indifferent to their stances on farm subsidies, gun control, and immigration; and I feel their stances on trans rights and corruption could be improved a fair bit. That would mean, when I meet someone from a different party, we could actually agree on a great many issues.

dfee 6y ago

Sure. Go to a Ducks Unlimited banquet and tell folks you’re a Democrat and they may contextualize gun control as your agenda. Tell your Bay Area colleagues you’re a Republican and you’ll be contextualized as close minded. Tell people you’re unaffiliated and they’ll often see you as an antagonist to their pet causes. Don’t tell people anything, and they usually won’t put up a guard.

danharaj 6y ago
No no, those are hypothetical. What's happened to you?
- dfee 6y ago
  You don’t get to arbitrate what has and has not happened to me. What sort of oddball remark was this? Funny story about that banquet though. A guy at my table paid a few hundred dollars in a silent auction thinking that he was bidding on a gun. He was actually bidding on a lottery ticket for a gun. His wife was unhappy with his mistake. He did win a duck call alongside the lottery ticket IIRC. This was in NW Arkansas and was a part of a crawfish boil. Definitely not the Bay Area.
  - danharaj 6y ago
    You're right. I apologize. An auction for a lottery ticket to win a gun. Are you sure there wasn't a raffle involved somewhere? :^)
    - pstuart 6y ago
      A raffle for a rifle?
      - danharaj 6y ago
        Better keep the riffraff out.
karatestomp 6y ago
> Sure. Go to a Ducks Unlimited banquet and tell folks you’re a Democrat and they may contextualize gun control as your agenda. Tell your Bay Area colleagues you’re a Republican and you’ll be contextualized as close minded. That's just... assuming you more-or-less support the planks/stances/actions of party you've just told them you consider yourself affiliated with. Where's the identity part come in?
- michaelt 6y ago
  Many people don't support 100% of their party's policies - they just agree with them on the 2 or 3 things that are really important to them. This is a normal state of affairs in a two-party system. For example, maybe I really like my party's stance on abortion and energy policy; I'm indifferent to their stances on farm subsidies, gun control, and immigration; and I feel their stances on trans rights and corruption could be improved a fair bit. That would mean, when I meet someone from a different party, we could actually agree on a great many issues.