> You can write tests at anytime Actually, every single Java enterprise application I've worked on for the past 20 years has been test-resistant: the developer

> You can write tests at anytime Actually, every single Java enterprise application I've worked on for the past 20 years has been test-resistant: the developers declare everything "public static" so none of the application can be run without running all of the rest of it (since each class imports another that transitively imports everything else, all with static initializers that read configuration files and connect to live database instances). Every refactor/rewrite I've ever suggested has been specifically to allow tests to be written.