Wait, this is confusing. By test-first do you mean TDD? Even if you don't do TDD you gotta have tests before refactoring, I've never seen anyone writing tests a

Wait, this is confusing. By test-first do you mean TDD? Even if you don't do TDD you gotta have tests before refactoring, I've never seen anyone writing tests after refactoring. I don't think this is controversial at all. Anyone please correct me if I'm wrong. (I've seen refactoring without testing but that's another matter)