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I wasn't there, but apparently Taligent was a failed C++ operating system from Apple and IBM in the 90's. I think there is a talk on YouTube by Bryan Cantrill

by chubot 6y ago

I wasn't there, but apparently Taligent was a failed C++ operating system from Apple and IBM in the 90's. I think there is a talk on YouTube by Bryan Cantrill that gives some color on it... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taligent https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taligent http://bobcongdon.net/blog/2004/06/the-taligent-effect/ http://bobcongdon.net/blog/2004/06/the-taligent-effect/

lou1306 6y ago
The Digital Antiquarian also touches on Taligent in his post about the IBM/Apple "alliance" in the 90s: https://www.filfre.net/2020/02/the-deal-of-the-century-or-the-alliance-of-losers/ https://www.filfre.net/2020/02/the-deal-of-the-century-or-th...
protomyth 6y ago
From Aaron Hillegass Cocoa® Programming for Mac® OS X, Third Edition Once upon a time, there was a company called Taligent, which was created by IBM and Apple to develop a set of tools and libraries like Cocoa. About the time Taligent reached the peak of its mindshare, I met one of its engineers at a trade show. I asked him to create a simple application for me: A window would appear with a button, and when the button was clicked, the words “Hello, World!” would appear in a text field. The engineer created a project and started subclassing madly: subclassing the window and the button and the event handler. Then he started generating code: dozens of lines to get the button and the text field onto the window. After 45 minutes, I had to leave. The app still did not work. That day, I knew that the company was doomed. A couple of years later, Taligent quietly closed its doors forever. It is asserted a bit later than C++ was the problem.
sgerenser 6y ago
Might be the video you were referring to: https://www.infoq.com/presentations/os-rust/ https://www.infoq.com/presentations/os-rust/ Skip to 24:30 for the Taligent part.
- chubot 6y ago
  Yes that's it, thanks!

by chubot 6y ago

lou1306 6y ago

The Digital Antiquarian also touches on Taligent in his post about the IBM/Apple "alliance" in the 90s: https://www.filfre.net/2020/02/the-deal-of-the-century-or-the-alliance-of-losers/ https://www.filfre.net/2020/02/the-deal-of-the-century-or-th...

protomyth 6y ago

From Aaron Hillegass Cocoa® Programming for Mac® OS X, Third Edition Once upon a time, there was a company called Taligent, which was created by IBM and Apple to develop a set of tools and libraries like Cocoa. About the time Taligent reached the peak of its mindshare, I met one of its engineers at a trade show. I asked him to create a simple application for me: A window would appear with a button, and when the button was clicked, the words “Hello, World!” would appear in a text field. The engineer created a project and started subclassing madly: subclassing the window and the button and the event handler. Then he started generating code: dozens of lines to get the button and the text field onto the window. After 45 minutes, I had to leave. The app still did not work. That day, I knew that the company was doomed. A couple of years later, Taligent quietly closed its doors forever. It is asserted a bit later than C++ was the problem.

sgerenser 6y ago

Might be the video you were referring to: https://www.infoq.com/presentations/os-rust/ https://www.infoq.com/presentations/os-rust/ Skip to 24:30 for the Taligent part.

chubot 6y ago
Yes that's it, thanks!