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> or even WhatsApp Ummm, no. (I mean, sure, it sometimes uses Signal protocol, but seriously a _Facebook_ product recommendation in a privacy discussion???)

• enitihas 6y ago
  What do you mean by "sometimes", does WhatsApp generate a random number to decide what protocol to use? Do you have better recommendations which use E2E and are also already used by the masses?
  • bigiain 6y ago
    Originally only two person chats were e2e encrypted, then the added e2e to group chats, but last time I checked (admittedly a year or more back) if one participant in a group chat had an old version of the app, the entire group chat was unencrypted, without an obvious user interface indication of that. I use (and trust) Signal. I believe Wickr is trusted by people who have resources behind them to know whether it's trustworthy (though it's closed source, so :shrug:). If you need "used by the masses", then you're gonna be stuck with, I dunno - Facebook public posts? Gmail? Slack? Smoke signals? Nothing that's fit for purpose" if you value privacy...
    • angelocire 6y ago
      Set up a webserver with teamspeak, which a ton of the millennial and zoomers already use for games, and nuke the server afterwards?