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Aside from the PR fiasco, this is bad for their paying users. I can’t verify that Zoom actually encrypts my calls, I have to trust that they’re telling the tru
by ashtonkem 6y ago
Aside from the PR fiasco, this is bad for their paying users.
I can’t verify that Zoom actually encrypts my calls, I have to trust that they’re telling the truth. When I find out that they’re willing to turn off encryption for some calls to make spying on their users easier, the idea of holding business meetings on their platform becomes unpalatable.
- robertlagrant 6y agoThey're not turning off encryption; they're allowing law enforcement decryption. Whether or not you think that's okay, it's not the same thing.
- vertex-four 6y agoThey're also maybe allowing decryption by anyone else who wants to, and by law enforcement without a warrant - there's no cryptographic proof anywhere that Zoom will only hand the key to police on presentation of a warrant, and never use it themselves. In the meantime, anyone who actually cares about their privacy can use an e2e encrypted group chat today with e.g. Wire. All this gets us is that unwitting people who can't afford to pay are in the position to get spied on.
- lstodd 6y agoIt's the same thing. If it can be turned off, it will be accidentally turned off, accidentally not turned on, or a myriad other things in this general direction. I witnessed a cellular carrier discovering that they had all encryption disabled for several months. A honest mistake, but one that should have been impossible by design.
- ashtonkem 6y agoHanding law enforcement the keys is functionally the same, from my perspective. And what reassurance do I have that they won’t do that to me, a paying customer? All I have is a little icon that says “encrypted” and Zoom’s word.
- sukilot 6y agoHow is that different from rot13?