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Secure by default is no longer a staple of communication apps? I thought we established that standard. Oh well, ride your wave Zoom, don’t get mad when the ine

Secure by default is no longer a staple of communication apps? I thought we established that standard. Oh well, ride your wave Zoom, don’t get mad when the inevitable funded competitors start showing up with security as a default.

bigiain 6y ago
I spend less running a Jitsi Meet cloud server than a single Zoom host account... 2 party e2e is still only experimental in Jitsi, but its coming.
- simonswords82 6y ago
  You are missing the point. Zoom is popular because it's easy to use and "just works". Enterprise orgs don't care about cost.
  - bigiain 6y ago
    I test drove Jitsi with a few different groups (including a not particularly technical frined group) with no more instruction than "Here's a link to a video meeting. If you're on mobile it'll prompt you to download the app. The password is 'foobah'", and it "just works" too. > Enterprise orgs don't care about cost. In my experience,thay also don't care too much about ease-of-use either. Purchasing deparments and managers are looking to someone who'll convince them that they won't personally take the blame when something goes wrong, which is why expensive proprietary services win over open source so often... "Sure everything's gone TITSUP[1], but it's Microsoft/SalesForce/Zoom fault. I've logged a ticket." is a magical career and face saving phrase... 1 "Total Inability To Supply Useful Product" - hat tip to El Reg...
    - theandrewbailey 6y ago
      > Here's a link to a video meeting. If you're on mobile it'll prompt you to download the app. You can disable forcing mobile users into an app, too.
- tome 6y ago
  Do you know a good guide for setting up a Jitsi Meet cloud server?
  - bigiain 6y ago
    This works: https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/opensource/getting-started-with-jitsi-an-open-source-web-conferencing-solution/ https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/opensource/getting-started-with... (And you don't need anything like as big an instance as a t3.large - a t3.small works fine for small workloads...) Everything from the "Install and configure Jitsi" section works just fine on Digital Ocean (and Raspberry Pi) too, if you translate the AWS specific setup stuff in the previous parts to suit...
raverbashing 6y ago
"Secure by default is no longer a staple" It never was. It never was. Security was built over time, with a lot of lessons learned in between. Browsers didn't magically start supporting SSL overnight. MSN Messenger never had any encryption, for example. One of the first protocols to support some form of encryption was SILC, but who uses it?

bigiain 6y ago

I spend less running a Jitsi Meet cloud server than a single Zoom host account... 2 party e2e is still only experimental in Jitsi, but its coming.

simonswords82 6y ago
You are missing the point. Zoom is popular because it's easy to use and "just works". Enterprise orgs don't care about cost.
- bigiain 6y ago
  I test drove Jitsi with a few different groups (including a not particularly technical frined group) with no more instruction than "Here's a link to a video meeting. If you're on mobile it'll prompt you to download the app. The password is 'foobah'", and it "just works" too. > Enterprise orgs don't care about cost. In my experience,thay also don't care too much about ease-of-use either. Purchasing deparments and managers are looking to someone who'll convince them that they won't personally take the blame when something goes wrong, which is why expensive proprietary services win over open source so often... "Sure everything's gone TITSUP[1], but it's Microsoft/SalesForce/Zoom fault. I've logged a ticket." is a magical career and face saving phrase... 1 "Total Inability To Supply Useful Product" - hat tip to El Reg...
  - theandrewbailey 6y ago
    > Here's a link to a video meeting. If you're on mobile it'll prompt you to download the app. You can disable forcing mobile users into an app, too.
tome 6y ago
Do you know a good guide for setting up a Jitsi Meet cloud server?
- bigiain 6y ago
  This works: https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/opensource/getting-started-with-jitsi-an-open-source-web-conferencing-solution/ https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/opensource/getting-started-with... (And you don't need anything like as big an instance as a t3.large - a t3.small works fine for small workloads...) Everything from the "Install and configure Jitsi" section works just fine on Digital Ocean (and Raspberry Pi) too, if you translate the AWS specific setup stuff in the previous parts to suit...

raverbashing 6y ago

"Secure by default is no longer a staple" It never was. It never was. Security was built over time, with a lot of lessons learned in between. Browsers didn't magically start supporting SSL overnight. MSN Messenger never had any encryption, for example. One of the first protocols to support some form of encryption was SILC, but who uses it?